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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2005, 09:08:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-29 18:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think someone confused the early days of Synanon with CEDU.  Sure, some of the early CEDU crap was affiliated with Synanon, EST and probably even Scientology. but don't tell Tom Cruise or John Travolta!!"
Im kinda new here, but now some of this makes sense.... landmark Education and all of its cult trappings also has roots in est. Landmark Education is NOT A GOOD THING. And anything that operates like it is not a good thing.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2005, 10:35:00 AM »
Why are putting Landmark Education in the mix with this?  Are you referring to the Landmark forums?  Landmark Education is NOTHING compared to CEDU.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2005, 10:43:00 AM »
I guess that proves my point... CEdu bad the forum bad.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2005, 01:30:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-03 05:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I just wonder how many people committed suicide or became extremely depressed due to that hypercritical "therapy" they used there. I know of several from the time I was at CEDU."


I know of 4 from the time I was at RMA (00-02). Haven't talked to anyone in years, so there could and most likely are more.
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2005, 01:33:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-29 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Former therapist---what you say sounds a little sketchy---I wonder if you did something more specific than break the rules by making cocoa for your clients---if you're who I think you are--the answer is a resounding yes!!!!



As you say yourself---it's probably illogical to be afraid of being sued by a non-existent company---you've got a bur under your saddle about being found out in any public way, that's for sure



And "your" kids---are there some boundary issues here?"

Everything you say sounds a bit "sketchy," Annie.  How 'bout if you get "outed" in public?

How's the weather in Minneapolis?  Getting cold yet?

Careful how you treat people, or, contrary to your expectations, you WILL be reacquainted with your limitations, I can assure you of that.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2005, 05:50:00 PM »
How about if every one of you just drank a brewski and shut the fuck up?
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2005, 07:58:00 AM »
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On 2005-09-17 14:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"How about if every one of you just drank a brewski and shut the fuck up?"

I think it's important to expose charlatans and people who feel free to be hurtful and condescending while hiding behind a bag.

This particular baghead is Ottawa, or "Annie from Minneapolis," if you like.

She's hurtful, cowardly, ego syntonic loser who thinks she's superior to other people, both intellectually and morally.  Well, I'm here to tell you that she isn't.  She's not nearly as smart as she gives herself credit for, and she sent her son to a program that was so abusive it forced to close its doors.

I'll take that brewski, though.  You're buyin'.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2005, 10:24:00 PM »
The funniest part of this site are people like you who really think you know everything.

1. I don't have a clue who 'Ottawa' is.
2. I'm a guy.
3. I don't have any kids.
4. I've never been to Minnesota.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2005, 10:27:00 PM »
Some fool was trying to bash on me awhile back, and from reading other people's posts about him, it made it seem like that fool was this "Ottawa"'s son. So who is this kid, and who exactly is Ottawa? He kept claiming he knew me, but didn't know a thing about me.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2005, 08:44:00 AM »
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On 2005-09-18 19:27:00, dniceo7 wrote:

"Some fool was trying to bash on me awhile back, and from reading other people's posts about him, it made it seem like that fool was this "Ottawa"'s son. So who is this kid, and who exactly is Ottawa? He kept claiming he knew me, but didn't know a thing about me. "

Ottawa5 is a woman from Minneapolis who was bashing the hell out of everyone on the CEDU forum.  She sent her son to RMA, attended the parent workshops, bought into the "program," and now intends to open her own "school."  She goes by the handle "Gentiana" on strugglingteens and other forums.

When people logically deconstructed her arguments here, she started posting anonymously and turned up the rhetoric.  She also said some very hateful, nasty things like accusing former CEDU employees who left the program of molesting children/sexual impropriety, etc.

She's now trolling around the "KarenInDallas" thread, again anonymously, but her identity has been confirmed.  I know all of her particulars because in her smug arrogance and technical ignorance she's left her personal information all over the net.

She has, since being busted, gone quiet.  Before her tripping herself up she was compulsively posting vitriol not befitting of a lady.  She's a very nasty, arrogant know-it-all, as you have seen in the CEDU threads and you can see in the thread I mentioned above.  

It will be assured that she will not avoid the embarrassment of accountability for her actions.  I wonder what her graduate advisor would think about someone who behaves like this?  This type of person should never be charged with the care of anyone - look what she's done to her own children.  

She sent her son to a horribly abusive program (RMA) that has been forced to close over lost lawsuits and prosecution of staff and has her teenage daughter (Ottawa2) involved on this board defending her.  She should be barred from working with kids because she is conscienceless and wholly unethical.  Not a good combination to be "helping" children, or anyone else for that matter.
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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2005, 08:49:00 AM »
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On 2005-09-18 19:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The funniest part of this site are people like you who really think you know everything.



1. I don't have a clue who 'Ottawa' is.

2. I'm a guy.

3. I don't have any kids.

4. I've never been to Minnesota.

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The post you're responding to wasn't directed at you, except for the brewski part.  I know you're not Ottawa5.  Sorry for the mixup.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2005, 10:09:00 AM »
This is one of Ottawa5's posts from another site. See how she rails against "anaon posters" and people from Fornits? Isn't it a bit funny that she does EXACTLY what she complains about?



"Is it true that this forum has gotten rid of anons?
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If so, thank you Alex. I am the mother of a successful RMA grad and I am interested in a place to be in touch with the experiences of other parents (and kids) who have been in a CEDU school--- for reasons of research and technical understanding.

It seems like people are more real, as well as more decent and respectful, if they have to attach some kind of identifier to their posts. Maybe it's sad that it has to be that way, but that seems to be how it is.

Not that a name guarantees sane or decent behavior. Look for example at the Fornit's site to see some really sad behavior, with and without identifiers.

Earlier in the year, I found the Fornit's site and tried to understand the experiences of students who felt that they did not benefit from CEDU. I really wanted to comprehend why this was so---my initial thinking was that perhaps these reactions were based on isolated experiences with bad counsellors in one school or another.

Eventually, it was my conclusion that the people who responded with vehemently anti-CEDU remarks (in some cases, even with death threats directed toward me or my family), likely had "issues" that were beyond what any non-lock-down program could deal with. Of course this is useful information to have, but probably does not address any detriments or strengths that the more typical student might identify in the CEDU experience.

I would really like to hear about how CEDU (that is, the specific schools) was for anyone who reads this. I am interested in critical, as well as positive posts--omitting threats, abuse, etc. (el a Fornits') would be greatly appreciated. And facilitated by Alex's excellent plan to eliminate anons."


What a hypocritical loser. Nobody can believe or give credence to single word that comes out of this phoney's mouth (or keyboard, as it were).
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2005, 05:18:00 PM »
Hi, I graduated peer group 24 at NWA. I had just heard recently that cedu had shut down and while checking out the facts online, I stumbled upon this webpage. I don't quite know how to pigeon-hole my CEDU experience; in some ways I resent having my highschool years stolen from me, but other times I'm happy about having been there. When I first graduated in May of 2004, I was pretty full of piss and vinegar, but since then I've had a little more time to cool down.

Throughout the program I was labeled "negative" and pretty much got yelled at in RAPS at least once a week. I had the most number of table restrictions out of any of other kids then in attendance by the second half of my "career" and had been on 2 full-times. I had come pretty close to being sent to Ascent twice throughout the program. (Grapes in a Nalgene...) I  never cried in propheets and got not one "live" vote from from my uncharacteristically well indoctrinated peer group during the Summit. Graduation was the happiest day of my life. Pochabel's Cannon still puts a smile on my face to this day.

Cedu took me away from my home, my friends and my family, but it also took me away from a lot of drugs and a life that may not have gone anywhere (without a great deal more effort).

After graduating from Northwest Academy, I took a year off to really reflect on what had happened. I did end up doing a lot of drugs during that year, but I also managed to matriculate at Colby College as a freshman this year.

When the interim year approached an end, I was able to turn of the drug use immediately (with manageable withdrawal) - something I'm not sure if I would've been able to do otherwise. I'm currently studying pre-med and have been drug-free since August (well mostly...smoke a little pot now and then and drink like a...well college student). In this respect, I am thankful for the way that things turned out.

However, Cedu did not leave me scratch free. Residual anger, guilt and distrust distance me from my family. I wake up sweating and panicking and thrashing almost every other night. (something that started at the beginning of my NWA experience...fear of escorts perhaps?) I'm very uncomfortable and fidgety around adults; I tend to avoid eye contact with authority, and I'm constantly paranoid  about punishment and consequence, even for the smallest offenses. I'm not nearly as carefree as I used to be, nor do I voice my opinions nearly as much. And I'm much more lethargic than I used to and I express far less emotion.  

Most of all, I feel like I cannot trust people. I have not felt much of an emotional attatchment toward anyone or anything since before NWA. I'll make friends, but I don't "bond" with them the same way I did with people I met before the whole experience began.

Just thought I'd like to share my experience as a relatively recent CEDU graduate with everyone.

If anyone wants to get in touch with me my e-mail is [email protected]

Please, though, if you don't have anything good to say don't say it. Flames will be reported to my school and I will block your e-mail address. Otherwise, I'm happy to talk to anyone, particularly any other CEDU graduates that share some of my experience.
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2005, 06:43:00 PM »
God forbid you report us to Colby. Whatever would I do.
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2005, 07:13:00 PM »
Wow, there's a lot of flaming of this little forum.

Don't forget that age old adage:

Argueing on the internet is like the special olympics

Even if you win....

You're still retarded

(no offense to the retarded)
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