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« Reply #555 on: March 10, 2006, 11:01:00 PM »
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"No, however I am aware of programs that properly address the problem, and don't rely on isolation in order to provide sobriety. It's an illusion that is shattered once the kid leaves."


O, please give us the names of these places and while you are at it, give us all of the statistical information you are relying on.  The folks on this site NEED statistics...authentic ones, not phone surveys.
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« Reply #556 on: March 10, 2006, 11:13:00 PM »
And the wheel in the sky keeps on turning...[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2006-03-10 17:37 ]"
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Don't you have anything else to say but nanny nanny poo poo?  I know you are but what am I?  When anybody around here makes a valid point it gets ugly.
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« Reply #557 on: March 10, 2006, 11:15:00 PM »
Good answers, fellow-anon.  Nice to see Ted and I have some company.
Karen
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« Reply #558 on: March 10, 2006, 11:31:00 PM »
I will be checking this place on the weekends and calling bullshit on this vast generalization of programs.  There are bad ones, EVERYONE KNOWS IT, but Carlbrook isn't one of them.  It works for at least one kid, mine.  The it "ONLY HURTS AND NEVER HELPS" premise is just false.
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« Reply #559 on: March 10, 2006, 11:44:00 PM »
Well...I'm gonna weigh in on the other side of the topic and say that I would still be hesitant to send a child to a program that is run in a similar manner to the one that I was in...and by the same people no less.  I can only assume that the same techniques are used and due to the fact that none of the Pro-Carlbrook group has chosen to answer questions regarding the workshops just goes to show that this program...just like all the others that use the same M.O....seems to have something to hide.
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« Reply #560 on: March 10, 2006, 11:50:00 PM »
There are not enough Carlbrook graduates out there to beat the odds to even find this place.  Give it some time and we can all hope it is an OK program -unless, of course,  you want to be right and have everyone that went there suffer like you did.  My kid liked it.  I'm hesitant to even mention fornits to my kid because I want college to be the focus, not this chronic piss and moan argument.
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« Reply #561 on: March 11, 2006, 12:07:00 AM »
OKB4, do you have a child or are you still a child?  I assume you are male.  The day, if it comes, that your son is violent towards your wife and young daughter you may remember this place.  Just try standing in the shoes of ordianry people that loved their kid and something went horribly wrong.  We aren't bad people and our kid thanks us for the intervention we provided.  That's all I have to offer.
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« Reply #562 on: March 11, 2006, 12:46:00 AM »
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"OKB4, do you have a child or are you still a child?  I assume you are male.  The day, if it comes, that your son is violent towards your wife and young daughter you may remember this place.  Just try standing in the shoes of ordianry people that loved their kid and something went horribly wrong.  We aren't bad people and our kid thanks us for the intervention we provided.  That's all I have to offer.  "


First...I'm not calling you bad parents...I don't troll these threads so that I can "harass" parents for "not raising their children right" blah blah blah.  I'm giving you guys the benefit of the doubt.  However...I'm really not sure that you are *fully* aware of what goes on in the programs.

No...I am not a parent...and I don't play one on T.V. either...but I am hardly a child.  I graduated from Mr. Braces program back in the mid 80's and feel that I am qualified to make comments on the therapeutic structure of the program until somebody gives me a straight answer as to how things are being run now.

here is a post I just made regarding just a *small* part of my horribly traumatic "truth propheet" I hope that you can understand my concerns regarding this type of therapy and that you can see where it can be misused.  It took me 20+/- years for me to finally tell my dad what *really* went on in the workshops other than the basic canned generalizations of the program.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =20#180258

and please remember...I am not bashing you as parents...I understand the situations that many of you can be in...however...I am opposed to the therapy used in these programs.
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« Reply #563 on: March 11, 2006, 08:39:00 AM »
"to a program that is run in a similar manner to the one that I was in...and by the same people no less. I can only assume that the same techniques are used"

Here is the real issue. Since Carlbrook was started by former Cascade grads who wanted to CHANGE the techniques, this assumption can NOT be made.
While Brace, Bender and others have been around the industry for awhile, you can not assume that they have not learned from past experience. Simply based on the reports of the few grads that do weigh in here, it does not appear that the coercive methods reported by you 80s kids are still employed- at least not at Carlbrook.
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« Reply #564 on: March 11, 2006, 09:37:00 AM »
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it does not appear that the coercive methods reported by you 80s kids are still employed- at least not at Carlbrook.


appearances can be deceiving.
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« Reply #565 on: March 11, 2006, 09:44:00 AM »
not as deceiving as false assumptions.
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« Reply #566 on: March 11, 2006, 02:23:00 PM »
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"Good answers, fellow-anon.  Nice to see Ted and I have some company.

Karen"


Shut up Karen you fucking loser.  I'm going to bump your thread so everyone really knows what you're like - a hateful, nasty bitch.
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« Reply #567 on: March 11, 2006, 02:44:00 PM »
So, is this the way it is?  Do the people that disagree with you get abused?  You are no better than the people that "abused" you at whatever place you went to.  There is no reason to call anyone a "nasty, fucking bitch" unless you are so full of venom that I want you to strike out and bite.  You, Mr. "bump your thread", need to grow up.  Nanny nanny poo poo.
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« Reply #568 on: March 11, 2006, 02:47:00 PM »
Doesn't bother me. The more they attack me in such a vile way, the more it completely discredits anything they might have to contribute.  It shows the sort of fringe element involved here....
Karen
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« Reply #569 on: March 11, 2006, 02:52:00 PM »
One more thing, is that the way you spoke to your mother?  If so I can completely understand why they sent you away.
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