Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Carlbrook
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---Yes. But bear in mind that there are varrying degrees and moods of publicity. I'm trying to find this old thread but having no luck. The OP was a 16yo girl who's boyfriend had been disappeared into a WWASP program. She started a Myspace page titled something like "Save Alex". I posted a static ad for that thread w/ the boy's picture taken from the girl's Myspace page. As I recall, at that time we had almost a complete corner on the market of people who were willing, able and inclined to investigate this topic.
* The good: Despite the bad and the truly ugly developments, some serious minded and well informed people provided the same kind of good advice as you're getting now. A few people sent copies of Maia Szalavitz Help At Any Cost to the various social workers, schoolpeople, clerks of court, lawyers, etc. Others personally contacted those same officials with their own experience and (eghhem) interacted with family members and friends on the forum. In the end, if I'm remembering right, a writ of habeas corpus got the kid out, but the judge asked him the kind of questions he knew to ask because of the information that had been provided to all parties.
* The bad: There was so much publicity and all bearing the kid's last name (he was a legal adult) that it brought a lot of stress onto everyone involved.
* The truly ugly: The things this kid's mother, sister and aunt said about both of these kids was just disgusting! For example, they took a punk rock band "friend" off of the girl's myspace and characterized that as both of them consorting with heroin addicts.
When you find those people willing and able to give concise, relevant information, put them in touch with the people charged with contributing to any decisions that may be made in his case. But I wouldn't advise anybody to go so far as using surnames or other blatantly identifying information in any public space unless you're up for living a very-real and quite protracted episode of Maury guest hosted by Jerry Springer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It can be fun if you can keep your sense of humor about it. But it is a very hard row to ho.
:jerry:
Please keep us updated and don't hesitate to ask for any help you may need.
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I see what you mean, but "fear of shame" is no reason to allow your own kid to be victimized.
If everyone stood up --for their own kids--even though their fight might result in other people "thinking" their family is abnormal these monsters would be stopped quickly
fear of personal shame should not allow this kid's imprisonment torture to be extended
lil_thespian:
So I have to tell you all... Your thread is a bit scary. This doesnt exactly sound like a very ahhh warm school? I've read like a solid 50 conversations on this website about carlbrook... I happened across it while a friend and I were googling my new therapist for fun... her name was listed in these threads... turns out she was at carlbrook for like its first four years and just recently came here... Like I didnt think she was creepy enough already... you have successfully made me slightly afraid of my therapist lol... Especially with words like abuse... cult.. and brainwashing being thrown about.
I had no idea that schools like carlbrook even existed before googling a day or two ago...
Antigen:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
I see what you mean, but "fear of shame" is no reason to allow your own kid to be victimized.
If everyone stood up --for their own kids--even though their fight might result in other people "thinking" their family is abnormal these monsters would be stopped quickly
fear of personal shame should not allow this kid's imprisonment torture to be extended
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It's not just personal shame. Put yourself in the shoes of a prospective employer, business associate, even social contact finding this highly personal, ugly stuff splattered all over the net. Not saying don't do it. In fact for my purposes, any publicity is good publicity for 'the cause(s)'. I just like to throw out that warning so that people who do go the major publicity route do so mindful of the down side.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "lil_thespian" ---So I have to tell you all... Your thread is a bit scary. This doesnt exactly sound like a very ahhh warm school? I've read like a solid 50 conversations on this website about carlbrook... I happened across it while a friend and I were googling my new therapist for fun... her name was listed in these threads... turns out she was at carlbrook for like its first four years and just recently came here... Like I didnt think she was creepy enough already... you have successfully made me slightly afraid of my therapist lol... Especially with words like abuse... cult.. and brainwashing being thrown about.
I had no idea that schools like carlbrook even existed before googling a day or two ago...
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Hello, thespian, I was tortured in a "school" like this, my sibling was tortured by the people who founded it. These aren't " schools" they are basically fronts for cults and detention centers . You are held prisoner in them, and cannot leave if you wish, or make phone calls to, well anyone, let alone a lawyer. There is no due process, habeas corpus, and if you are under 18 (and in some cases, under 21)at any minute, without warning, you can be kidnapped by on of these organizations and held there, “disappeared,” sometimes forever.
What qualitifiations does your therepist have? Will you ask her about the Carlbrook "school'?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
I see what you mean, but "fear of shame" is no reason to allow your own kid to be victimized.
If everyone stood up --for their own kids--even though their fight might result in other people "thinking" their family is abnormal these monsters would be stopped quickly
fear of personal shame should not allow this kid's imprisonment torture to be extended
--- End quote ---
It's not just personal shame. Put yourself in the shoes of a prospective employer, business associate, even social contact finding this highly personal, ugly stuff splattered all over the net. Not saying don't do it. In fact for my purposes, any publicity is good publicity for 'the cause(s)'. I just like to throw out that warning so that people who do go the major publicity route do so mindful of the down side.
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I see what you mean, but to be honest, i really don't think there's a stigma. People go on the 'real world' various reality shows make complete fools of themselves, and have no problems, really. There's not such a big stimga about being a torture victim? Most people aren't that..malformed. And since the alternative to fighting publicly, pressing charges, etc. is being driven into insantity by a cult, I don't think there's much of a choice. Should women about to get raped not call for help because there is a stigma about being raped? Just, FIGHT FOR YOUR KID, lady. The longer he's there the less of him there will be when he leaves. Its a matter of weeks, not months before these places start damaging you.
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