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Nonconformistlaw:
I have to confirm and agree with some things Deborah pointed out. I have also experienced, and still do to this day as a matter of fact, the very same post-program symptoms ---here are the points she made that I noticed in myself post program:

------"He seems guarded, serious," etc----------

------"It appears that it's hard for him to feel like he's part of the group. He doesn't speak up and let his voice be heard. Just kinda lethargic, goes along, or splits and does his own thing (isolates). My sense is that there is still a feeling of deprivation he's trying to compensate for, rightfully so. As well as an avoidance of taking risks and at all costs, avoids conflict."--------

-----"While he appears fine on the surface- has friends and is well liked- I see the insecurity."----------

-----"He felt like he'd been sent to hell, and in fact, he had been."----------

And in response to what you said here Deborah...-----"There are moments when I see MY son, and that gives me hope that the programming will eventually wear off."------------

Even though I say I still exhibit much of the exact same post program damage so many years later....I think your son stands a great chance of putting some of those bad pogramming effects behind him....in my opinion anyway, I think he'll do well because he has an enlightened parent like your self who obviously cares enough to help him through his post program difficulties...
 ::rainbow::

Nonconformistlaw:
Anon said --------"Wonder if it is time to step up to the plate and give up the black and white thinking--and talk to him about the bad AND the good of what he has experienced."
WOW anon! My what a great idea :idea:  :idea:

Anon, I think you should practice what you preach! :roll:

I wonder if its time for YOU, ANON, to step up to the plate and give up the black and white Pro-progam thinking---and talk about the bad and good of program experiences....

You have quite the knack of posting nothing but pro-program propoganda, never once acknowleging that there are valid program horror stories...you always brush the bad points aside, then start yappping about how anti program people are just angry...insinuating, and, blatently saying that we have no valid complaints....

So again which program has such a great academic program? Its easier to discuss the good and bad points with concrete examples, evidence etc.. :em:

Anonymous:
I don't think any student has died while at Hidden Lake. Not sure about Carlbrook or Oakley or Cascade.

Anonymous:
To Nonconformistlaw---you seem to have morphed more than one anon poster into your recent response referring to ignoring horror stories re various programs.

I'm the anon calling Deb on her shit with her son---and based on her past postings I've got to believe that whatever her son went thru at his school is likely a small thing compared to the psychological manipulation that the poor kid is facing now at home with his dear old mom---cuz if he ever even thought about something good in his school experience (and what kid doesn't find something good in most experiences?)---old Deb would be on him like a duck on a June bug---I mean she couldn't let that stand, could she?---that would invalidate her whole reason for being at the moment--- not to mention most of her 3 million fucking lengthy posts at this site.


I'm sure there's shitty programs out there so I have no dog in that fight you're trying to pick.   And about the program with the great academics---that seems to pertain to a post by a different anon my man---you'll have to take that up with the other poster.  Get this: "anon" is generic: it doesn't refer to just one poster

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-08-26 19:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"To Nonconformistlaw---you seem to have morphed more than one anon poster into your recent response referring to ignoring horror stories re various programs.



I'm the anon calling Deb on her shit with her son---and based on her past postings I've got to believe that whatever her son went thru at his school is likely a small thing compared to the psychological manipulation that the poor kid is facing now at home with his dear old mom---cuz if he ever even thought about something good in his school experience (and what kid doesn't find something good in most experiences?)---old Deb would be on him like a duck on a June bug---I mean she couldn't let that stand, could she?---that would invalidate her whole reason for being at the moment--- not to mention most of her 3 million fucking lengthy posts at this site.





I'm sure there's shitty programs out there so I have no dog in that fight you're trying to pick.   And about the program with the great academics---that seems to pertain to a post by a different anon my man---you'll have to take that up with the other poster.  Get this: "anon" is generic: it doesn't refer to just one poster"

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