Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
Typical Day at Sagewalk
Anonymous:
Funny in a sort of horrible way like when I heard Charles Manson on some documentary---his interview conversation just sort of drifted from fairly normal into a psychotic rant over just a few minutes. Overall his use of language and his omission of nasty-speak was a step up from Overlordd though
Your "friends" over at ST: get a clue Overlordd---they think you're a joke over there too, it's called "humoring the crazy person"
OverLordd:
Is that it? Is that all you got? Comparing me to Charles Manson? I mean come on, debate with me, argue with me, respond to me, but comparing me to charles manson is so damned pointless its fucking insulting, not because you compaired him to me but you wasited my time to chastise you.
And doing the right this has always worked out well for me, thank you oh so much.
Anonymous:
See what I mean---he's great!!
webcrawler:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-29 21:03:00, AtomicAnt wrote:
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On 2005-07-29 20:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I predict that within 6 months you will be sending your son to a program. You will not be able to manage him at home, and his drug use will greatly increase. Perhaps wilderness is not the right place due to his anxiety disorder, but there are very good reasons why the kids can only communicate by letter. The family dynamics are usually a big part of the underlying problem, and need to be removed from the equation before progress can be made."
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What a crock! The whole point of NOT removing a kid from the family is because the family dynamics are part of the problem; AND MUST BE ADDRESSED. Family therapy is the best way to address these issues. Removing a kid, changing him, then dumping him back into the dysfunctional family solves nothing. Rehab specialists have known that since the 1960s.
What is the deal with allowing dysfunctional and perhaps abusive parents the priviledge of blaming everything on the teen and sending him/her away to be fixed, while they sit at home smug and guilt free thinking they 'did the right thing?'
The real reason for cutting ties with the parents is to deny the teen the support system. He is easier to break if his parents are not there to protect him. It is easier to manipulate the parents if the program can screen the letters and do damage control by calling the parents and misinforming them that their child is just lying and manipulating. The child cries for help and the program tells the parents not to interfere or they will mess up the kid's progress. Say what you like, but it is the perfect set up for abuse. It is a pedophile's (or sadist's) dream come true.
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Makes me think about the place I was in and when we "earned" the right to talk to our parents it was only for 5 minutes and we could only apologize for a specific incident in the past. We could not communicate about anything else and our parents were told to tell on us if we did and we were told to tell on them if they went off the path. I don't see how such controlled dialouge was helpful to either one of us.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-01 07:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are so full of shit. I hope you never have kids, because you would be literally shocked to death at how your fairy tale version of the "right things to do" can turn out. Do you think these parents didn't do many of these things? It ain't that easy, moron.
Overlordd- I'm disappointed in your rant. You were beginning to make some friends over on the other site. All that will be destroyed now with your immature swearing and anger. Too bad I can't post it over there- but it is too ridiculous to be appropriate."
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You know, Overlord, I can't say I have been too happy with a lot of your posts about ST people being okay. But if you are capable of pissing of some program parent THIS much-- you are okay in my book! :wave:
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