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Offline Deborah

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« on: July 21, 2005, 09:25:00 AM »
Did anyone else catch the comment that, after 15 days this group of kids were not 'where they should be'- respecting authority and following the rules.

Anyone else wonder why?
How is THIS group of hand-selected 'contestants' different than the typical group- which according to the narrator, would already be conditioned to defer to authority after 15 days?

Unusually resistant kids?
Program not employing all their usual methods/ techniques because America is watching?
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 11:15:00 AM »
They just say that to make the kids hysterical. They don't really mean that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2005, 11:25:00 AM »
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Did anyone else catch the comment that, after 15 days this group of kids were not 'where they should be'- respecting authority and following the rules.



Anyone else wonder why?

How is THIS group of hand-selected 'contestants' different than the typical group- which according to the narrator, would already be conditioned to defer to authority after 15 days?



Unusually resistant kids?

Program not employing all their usual methods/ techniques because America is watching?

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It was the same on the first Brat Camp on ABC Family.  They were expected to be there for four to six weeks.  In fact, it was nearer three months.  The film crew were not pleased.  They had to stay there for Christmas.  :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »
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"They just say that to make the kids hysterical. They don't really mean that."


I agree. They said the very same thing in The Seed and Straight. Moreso in Straight. At intake, they handed the parents and client a bit of fiction about a two week first phase followed by a month on second, month or two on 3rd, one on 4th, one on 5th, totallying roughly 6 months. In The Seed, the usual stay was closer to a year. In Straight, it was more like two years. The only time I ever saw anyone finish anywhere near 6 months was this very well endowed former stripper named Pam who landed up on staff and married to a sr. staffer.

At the same time, though, I have to wonder how the presence of the camera crew changes things. From all I've heard, staff in these death marches routinely take down and/or verbally assault any kid who dares to utter the plain fact that "this sucks!" Notice how the rocks for cus words thing has gone out the window since the first ep? Anybody out there who's been through Sagewalk care to comment?

Oh, and btw, anyone know these jokers' real names?

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2005, 01:52:00 PM »
http://www.sagewalk.com/staff.htm
http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/bratcamp.html

Here's some of them:

Tony Randazzo, aka "Glacier Mountain Wolf"
Dr. J. Huffine, aka "Flying Eagle"
Cindy Fogel, aka "Mother Raven,"
Scott Fitzwater, aka "Fire Bear"
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 05:12:00 AM »
Am I the only one here who would feel like a total retard calling someone those indian-wannabe names? Oh, thats probably the point.  :roll:

Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0807059099/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Mahatma Gandhi, My Autobigraphy, p. 446

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 08:47:00 AM »
I would make them call me

"Gunna killya whileya sleep."

Sounds indian enough.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2005, 12:31:00 PM »
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Dr. J. Huffine, aka "Flying Eagle"


Should be "Walking Eagle"

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 01:09:00 PM »
Well, I think the Golden Turd award goes to the narrator.

Talk about crappy!
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2005, 02:13:00 PM »
I know the narrator is a condescending jackass.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2005, 09:33:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-21 10:52:00, Anonymous wrote:


Dr. J. Huffine, aka "Flying Eagle"




Should be "Walking Eagle"

This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.
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Regardless of everyone's disgust for "earth names", don't disrespect Dr. Huffine. He was my counselor at SW. Really cool guy, knows his stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »
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"Regardless of everyone's disgust for "earth names", don't disrespect Dr. Huffine. He was my counselor at SW. Really cool guy, knows his thought reform techniques."


Thought reform, brainwashing, whatever you want to call it, he knows his stuff about as well as Chairman Mao.   :tup: Go, Walking Eagle, Go!
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2005, 08:13:00 PM »
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Thought reform, brainwashing, whatever you want to call it, he knows his stuff about as well as Chairman Mao.   :tup: Go, Walking Eagle, Go!"


You're an idiot as well as most of the people at this site.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2005, 09:26:00 PM »
It's one thing to find something negative about this program or that.

But to make smart-ass remarks (bringing Chairman Mao into it for God's sake) about a counselor who evidently touched a person's life in a positive way, I mean, isn't that why that why somebody went to the trouble of posting here about him, saying something good about him?

How low can you go? I don't know
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2005, 09:31:00 PM »
Idiot... and this is your professional opinion? On what grounds?

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