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Six counselors at a state-run wilderness camp for troubled boys were charged with murder in the death of a 13-year-old boy with asthma who was restrained for more than an hour.

A White County grand jury handed up the charges of felony murder, child cruelty and involuntary manslaughter Monday.

"This is all based on the criminal negligence or reckless conduct of these individuals," said White County District Attorney Stan Gunter. "It was due to the restraint, and how they applied it, that has led to these charges."

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 05:23:00 PM »
Hey, good to know at least someone is getting their dues for being a sadistic child-killer  :flame:

Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By  any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2005, 04:29:00 PM »
you dont know what you are talking about.  you know nothing about the counselors- they are not "sadistic child killers"- but you are an idiot :exclaim:
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »
Yes, yes, of course! These kind gentlemen lovingly squashed the life out of this kid. What were we thinking?

Time for a paradigm shift, dear.

That's all marijuana is, after all. It's just a plant, a common and easily grown one at that. In many cultures, its consumption was lawful for millennia. And in all that time, the bond between thugs, mayhem, murder and marijuana that we see today did not exist.

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2005, 06:51:00 PM »
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"you dont know what you are talking about.  you know nothing about the counselors- they are not "sadistic child killers"- but you are an idiot :exclaim: "


Six counselors at a state-run wilderness camp for troubled boys were charged with murder in the death of a 13-year-old boy with asthma who was restrained for more than an hour.

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2005, 12:22:00 AM »
And withheld food and denied him his inhaler.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2005, 12:23:00 AM »
Do you notice all these 'outdoor counselors' or whatever they call themselves, are ex-students?
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2005, 07:11:00 AM »
DHR to consider banning face-down restraints after boy's death

The Associated Press - ATLANTA

Following the death of a 13-year-old boy, the Georgia Department of Human Resources is considering banning the use of face-down restraints at camps for troubled youths.

Travis Parker died April 21, one day after being held face down for more than an hour by counselors at a state-run camp in White County in the North Georgia mountains.

Child welfare officials said they began reviewing the rules governing the camps after the death.

"A child has died. We believe that death warrants us going back and taking another look at what exists in Georgia," Human Resources Commissioner B.J. Walker said. "We want to have a consistent, clear set of rules. It's the least we can do."

Department of Human Resources officials have insisted they do not teach the face-down restraint, which is sometimes called a "full basket hold."

DHR spokeswoman Dena Smith said Wednesday that the agency's rules do not address the use of the face-down restraint.

"It's not mentioned," Smith said.

Six camp counselors were charged with murder Tuesday in the boy's death. White County District Attorney Stan Gunter has said the restraint caused Parker's death, which was ruled a homicide. Parker was also denied his asthma inhaler during the incident, according to state reports.

But attorneys for some of the counselors said their clients had been taught to use the face-down restraint and did not intend to harm the boy.

Dan Summer, attorney for counselor Torbin Vining, said Tuesday that the restraint was included in the counselors' training manuals and had been used previously at the camp with good results.

But Smith said the training manuals do not teach the face-down hold.

"We do not have a policy that allows face-down holds, or that trains people to do it," she said.

The proposed ban on face-down holds is one of several changes the DHR board will consider.

Other proposals include a requirement that at least two staff members be on duty when a restraint is being used on a child. Counselors would also be required to be aware of the child's medical condition.

DHR plans to hold a public hearing on the proposals in about a month, officials said.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2005, 09:03:00 AM »
Questions:
Why would the state ?CONSIDER? banning (prohibiting) a restraints that they allege hadn?t been used, wasn?t taught, or in the training manual?
Do the ?counselors? have a copy of that training manual?

How will the ?PROPOSAL? to require two staff to be present prevent illegal restraints and/or death? There were SIX staff present at this incident.

Or the ?PROPOSAL? to require that staff ?be aware of the child?s medical condition?. It appears that the staff was well aware of Travis?s medical condition. Is the state implying that they weren?t?

Is this the best response the state could contrive? Propose ?several changes?- well known potential problems- that should already exist in their policies? How many decades has this government agency been sanctioned to protect the well-being of children in and out of programs, and they don?t already have these simple bases covered? That?s comforting.

And now, will the public kindly divert their attention to something more entertaining, resting assured that the state is hard at work ?fixing? the apparent problem that allowed this tragedy to happen.  :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2005, 01:19:00 PM »
You nailed it, Deb. Here's another question. When will local, state and federal governments ban the practice of baiting kids till they snap out in order to justify whatever restraint they deem appropriate (or think they can get away with) at the moment?

Answer: Never. They refuse to even recognize that the alleged adults in the story could possibly be at fault in any way. I've seen this sort of attitude in schoolpeople, too.

This is just one of many fronts in an ongoing culture war.

There's no biochemical test to distinguish the so-called manic-depressive person from the elated or despondent football fan. Nor is there any resan to assume the manic-depressive's inner experience is driven by twisted molecules while the football fan's is driven, at worst, by twisted values
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2005, 01:46:00 PM »
Yeh, it seems a wide-spread 'tradition'.
They expect kids to be little automatrons- endure disrespect and irrational rules for the convenience of the adults who don't have any desire to have a genuine relationship with them.

I've seen it in the Brat Camp shows.
The kids 'aren't where they should be' so they bring in a crew of 'more strict' abusers.

First of all, was that accurate? I don't think so. I think it was just time for a shift change. Two weeks out, two weeks in.

Then suddenly the 'rules' change. No snacks that night. Why? Was there a reasonable or rational reason? Or just another arbitrary rule change choreographed to 'push their buttons'- bait and punish? I thought Frank's response to the unexplained change was actually pretty mild and honest. They used this as an example of 'his issue'- not feeling like he had to follow the rules.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2005, 04:20:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-21 06:03:00, Deborah wrote:

"Questions:

Why would the state ?CONSIDER? banning (prohibiting) a restraints that they allege hadn?t been used, wasn?t taught, or in the training manual?

Do the ?counselors? have a copy of that training manual?



How will the ?PROPOSAL? to require two staff to be present prevent illegal restraints and/or death? There were SIX staff present at this incident.



Or the ?PROPOSAL? to require that staff ?be aware of the child?s medical condition?. It appears that the staff was well aware of Travis?s medical condition. Is the state implying that they weren?t?



Is this the best response the state could contrive? Propose ?several changes?- well known potential problems- that should already exist in their policies? How many decades has this government agency been sanctioned to protect the well-being of children in and out of programs, and they don?t already have these simple bases covered? That?s comforting.



And now, will the public kindly divert their attention to something more entertaining, resting assured that the state is hard at work ?fixing? the apparent problem that allowed this tragedy to happen.  :roll:

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 03:48:00 PM »
So, if the two licensed therapists responsible for the death of Candace Newmaker were sentenced to 16 years, why are the staff responsible for the deaths at programs walking away?
If you read these excerpts you'll see some similarities with the industry, and similar questions being posed. Where's the 'scientific validation' for wilderness/bm warehouses? Ethics? Does the ends justify the means? Should a child ever be tortured in the name of therapy?

Quackwatch needs to turn its attention to this industry.

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Connell Watkins, 54, and her associate, Julie Ponder, 40, were found guilty of reckless child abuse resulting in death. In addition, Watkins was convicted of a second felony, criminal impersonation, and of two misdemeanors -- obtaining a signature by deception and unlawful practice of psychotherapy. On June 18, both were sentenced to 16 years in Colorado state prison. Although this is the minimum sentence required for their offenses, the judge noted that "a 16-year sentence is a very strong statement to other mental-health professionals not to do what these defendants have done." What they did, of course, was not merely to kill an innocent and helpless child. They also tortured her for eight days while pursuing a baseless therapy for a bogus diagnosis.

During the "rebirthing" therapy, Candace was supposed to fight her way out of the sheet and be "reborn" so she could bond with her adoptive mother. But the videotape of the child's death showed all four adults tormenting the girl during a so-called "rebirthing" session. The procedures used in Candace's case were both physically and mentally dangerous. After instructing her to try to come out of her flannel "womb," the adults did everything they could to frustrate her efforts to comply: blocking her movements, retying the ends of the sheet, shifting their weight, and ignoring her cries for help. As Candace literally struggled and screamed for her life, they answered with taunts such as, "Go ahead and die."

During one two-hour session, Candace had her face grabbed, with enforced eye contact, 90 times; had her head violently shaken 309 times; and was screamed at just inches away from her face 68 times.

Other "therapy" sessions we watched were similar. During one, Candace's mother laid on her for an hour and 42 minutes, and Candace's face was licked about 21 times. In another session, she had her treasured long hair hacked off into a short, ragged mop. In others, she was required to kick her legs in scissors fashion unto the point of exhaustion. There were many periods in which this naturally energetic 10-year-old was required to sit absolutely motionless for 10, 20, or 30 minutes at a time. Indeed, the last image of Candace we were shown was of her sitting cross-legged, staring blankly at the camera, her face, though still lovely, showing nothing of the smiling, apparently confident girl seen in her fourth-grade class photo. At the last, hers was the face of a torture victim. That image, too, haunts me daily.

The testimony in this case has revealed much about the quackery related to Candace's torture:

*The case began with fear-mongering, a phony diagnosis of "attachment disorder," and the unrealistic worries and hopes of adoptive parents.
*Then there are the hopelessly unscientific, intellectually vacuous, ethically bankrupt, and pervertedly sadistic beliefs and practices collectively called "attachment therapies."
*Next there is the motley collection of egomaniacs, sociopaths, charlatans, wannabees, failures, and hangers-on that comprise the community of "attachment therapists."
*Finally, there is the network of public and private social agencies, licensed and unlicensed social workers, self-promotional workshops and conferences, pseudo-professional cross-referrals, private clinics and residential facilities that uses scare tactics and false hope to recruit desperate (or unrealistic) parents and children to use their services. The evidence in this case revealed a pipeline feeding North Carolina children to Evergreen, Colorado, for victimization. Our independent investigation suggests that there are other pipelines with different intakes and outlets.

And when the defendants testified that they used therapies without scientific basis for doing so, the prosecution went right for the jugular by quoting from their own codes of ethics, which call for scientific validation of their practices. Whenever a witness would admit a procedure was not validated, the prosecution would accurately label it experimental, and question the ethics of conducting experiments on unwilling children.

Some commentators have noted the arrogance of the two defendants, particularly during their own testimony. They "knew" what Candace's real problem was. They just "knew" what treatment she needed to get better. They "knew" her cries were lies or manipulation. They just "knew" she had enough air to breathe.

During summation, both prosecutors accurately pointed out that this was a case of "ends justifying the means," rife with pseudoscience, and prejudicial to the health and welfare of the children (victims). The defense did not -- and could not -- refute these charges.

The prosecutors also asked whether children have any right to self-determination and dignity, and whether it is ever proper to torture a child?

Colorado House Bill 1238 ("Candace's Law"), which became law on April 17, prohibits "reenactment of the birthing process through therapy techniques that involve any restraint that creates a situation in which a patient may suffer physical injury or death." The bill enables misdemeanor penalties for the first offense and makes a second offense a felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine. The bill passed both houses of the state legislature unanimously.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 03:55:00 AM »
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Quackwatch needs to turn its attention to this industry.

Perhaps we can ask them.  Is there an email address?

Also there is an Anti-Quackery ring.  Perhaps Fornits could join it.

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