Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
What critics say
Anonymous:
Your post tells the whole story and you still don't get it.
People in this country---parents, media types, CPS, whoever---just don't buy the line you're selling that putting limits on a kid is abuse.
It's just a few malcontents like yourself who think that putting a defiant drug abusing kid in a program is abuse.
Oh you may find a scum bag lawyer here and there who will try to trump up a case in certain circumstances but without enough stupid gullible people on the jury, that case is going to go nowhere
Bottom line: reason there is virtually no criticism of Brat Camp (which btw I think should NOT have been televised because these kids deserved privacy in working out their problems) is because the country (except for some posters here apparently) has collectively grown up and is no longer willing to let adolescents run wild and ruin their lives in the name of unguided self-expression
Anonymous:
Well don't you think it ODD that the so called professionals who work there even ALLOWED it to be aired on national TV? That they agreed to this arrangement? I think they, along with the parents, are solely responsible for that. Them even more because they are supposed to know better. The problem with this program, is that if you will read pretty much any professional counselor or psychological organization's code of ethics, they all list things such as: confidentiality, having a say in their therapy, being treated with dignity, being respected, being given the most freedom they can within the confines of therapy. These things are listed in every major professional association, I am sure also the ones those so called professionals on the show are members of. These people are supposed to be professional THERAPISTS. That is not what therapists are supposed to be doing.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-14 11:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Your post tells the whole story and you still don't get it.
People in this country---parents, media types, CPS, whoever---just don't buy the line you're selling that putting limits on a kid is abuse.
It's just a few malcontents like yourself who think that putting a defiant drug abusing kid in a program is abuse.
Oh you may find a scum bag lawyer here and there who will try to trump up a case in certain circumstances but without enough stupid gullible people on the jury, that case is going to go nowhere
Bottom line: reason there is virtually no criticism of Brat Camp (which btw I think should NOT have been televised because these kids deserved privacy in working out their problems) is because the country (except for some posters here apparently) has collectively grown up and is no longer willing to let adolescents run wild and ruin their lives in the name of unguided self-expression"
--- End quote ---
No, putting limits on a child's behavior is not child abuse. But forcing children to sleep in tents outside in the snow is. And forcing children to march on and on and on, while punishing those who can't keep on going (a common occurance in wilderness programs) is child abuse. Restricting food and water (another widely used practice in programs) is child abuse. Restricting communication between parents and children (which is done in almost all programs) is child abuse.
The reason that there isn't more criticism is because people have been indoctrinated with this stupid "tough love" approach, which basically states that all a "defiant" kid needs is a good beating. But you can't say that out loud, of course. So you do it in other ways: restrict their food and water, make them march for hours and hours, force them to sleep outside despite the extremely low temperatures. And, yes, all that is abusive-- but who gives a damn, right? As long as those little spoiled brats get what's coming to them.
Anonymous:
Oh yeah, and let's not forget -- telling the truth!! Those kids were lied to about what they were getting into, and the counselors just left after they were all devestated. Leaving devestated kids to "process through it" is absurd.
Anonymous:
AND, it seems this place isnt' even licensed by the freaking state. Can you say RED FLAG? http://www.sagewalk.com/links.htm. Where is the state of Oregon's health dept on this list?? It's not here because they don't want to follow standard procedure. That's really cool, isn't it.
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