Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Petition Concerning WWASP
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-11 18:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just an observation...
Is ISAC or the owner on the payroll of the Aspen Education Group?
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Look at the ISAC document library. There are some Aspen programs listed there that aren't listed on the watchlist, such as Excel Academy. Turn-About Ranch, which is on the list, is an Aspen program.
It's taking them time to get to Aspen, but they're getting there.
BuzzKill:
Well, if I understand the process by which a program or business is added to the watch list - ISAC needs to have a complaint from a student or parent. Maybe also some other evidence that concern is warranted - such as Newspaper accounts or other documents.
And one should remember - its not like ISAC has a large staff on hand to update web pages. Things get done when there is time to do them.
If someone has a problem with Aspen, you should make sure ISAC knows about it; and if your willing to stand by your statement, I feel confident ISAC will pay attention.
About Jeff not know Sue was paid referrals by the programs - I can't think he didn't know. . . Really, it wasn't a secrete. How much, and the exact circumstances are unknown - but that she is paid by the programs is well known and oft debated.
My only gripe with Jeff is his not sending out the articles about the charges against the owners of Whitmore - as he would have, had it been any other program with Susan off the pay roll.
AND - I really do wonder if he is aware that she was recruiting for Brat Camp? He seems very upset by the idea of Brat Camp. So, its natural for anyone to wonder if he knew this. If not, maybe he'll ask himself what else does he not know. Maybe he should.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-11 19:17:00, BuzzKill wrote:
"Well, if I understand the process by which a program or business is added to the watch list - ISAC needs to have a complaint from a student or parent. Maybe also some other evidence that concern is warranted - such as Newspaper accounts or other documents.
And one should remember - its not like ISAC has a large staff on hand to update web pages. Things get done when there is time to do them.
If someone has a problem with Aspen, you should make sure ISAC knows about it; and if your willing to stand by your statement, I feel confident ISAC will pay attention.
About Jeff not know Sue was paid referrals by the programs - I can't think he didn't know. . . Really, it wasn't a secrete. How much, and the exact circumstances are unknown - but that she is paid by the programs is well known and oft debated.
My only gripe with Jeff is his not sending out the articles about the charges against the owners of Whitmore - as he would have, had it been any other program with Susan off the pay roll.
AND - I really do wonder if he is aware that she was recruiting for Brat Camp? He seems very upset by the idea of Brat Camp. So, its natural for anyone to wonder if he knew this. If not, maybe he'll ask himself what else does he not know. Maybe he should. "
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LOL ... Scheff is referring to Brat Camp and recruiting (or used to) kids for lawsuits against teen help programs?
Now that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
:rofl:
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-11 18:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just an observation...
Is ISAC or the owner on the payroll of the Aspen Education Group?
"
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OMG .. what the hell kind of question is that?
ISAC is a watchdog group. Right???
:???:
BuzzKill:
Didn't you get the response to your question you had hoped for?
Oh well. . .
As for what kind of question it is - my off hand guess would be it is a deflection question; meant to inspire unwarranted suspicions an asked in the hope of shifting the attention of this thread.
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