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Petition Concerning WWASP

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Nihilanthic:
Everyone is tricked or forced into thinking that suffering and hardship and other "tough" words are somehow "good for them".

Nevermind that the mentality itself is ridiculous, if everyone eles thinks it why stand out? (Per their logic, they should just put all the violent criminals to work beating everyone in middleschool and up so they get 'emotional growth') Besides, most of them are just watching it as a show - as something that is fiction, it doesnt click to them that its real. I tell someone about tranquility bay and it wont click. I read to them statement "E" from ISAC and they usually either just think its a lie or sit there in shock.

It took incessant nagging on my part to get my mom to watch montel williams when it had the show about WWASPS the second time (with the lovely editing out of PURE bullshit :grin:). And the thing is, she knew on an INTELLECTUAL level that this was real, but it never clicked with her REALITY until she saw this. Unfortuantely she didnt see Samanta Monroe talking - I think that a GROWN WOMAN talking about this might have gotten it across to another one.
Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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BuzzKill:
I really do wonder, did you know that Susan was helping recruit kids for the Brat camp thing?
Call Shannon and ask about it. Susan thought she might want to send her daughter.

I also wonder - why haven't you ever sent out copies of the articles in the situation at Whitmore? If these things were taking place at SCL or IRA you'd be sending the articles out far and wide.

Not that I don't know why you haven't . . .
I guess its just that I am surprised you would let "that" stop you from doing what you do - advocating for kids placed in abusive and neglectful programs.

How is it you can accept ,on one referral agent's word, that the Whitmore families are lying manipulators with an agenda - but not accept that same argument in the case of all others?

Please don't misunderstand. I have always liked and respected you Jeff. I am not meaning to attack you - I guess I am just hoping to get you thinking.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-10 07:54:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"I really do wonder, did you know that Susan was helping recruit kids for the Brat camp thing?

Call Shannon and ask about it. Susan thought she might want to send her daughter.



I also wonder - why haven't you ever sent out copies of the articles in the situation at Whitmore? If these things were taking place at SCL or IRA you'd be sending the articles out far and wide.



Not that I don't know why you haven't . . .

I guess its just that I am surprised you would let "that" stop you from doing what you do - advocating for kids placed in abusive and neglectful programs.



How is it you can accept ,on one referral agent's word, that the Whitmore families are lying manipulators with an agenda - but not accept that same argument in the case of all others?



Please don't misunderstand. I have always liked and respected you Jeff. I am not meaning to attack you - I guess I am just hoping to get you thinking.

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I agree Buzzkill, but I seriously doubt you will get an answer from Berryman that truthfully explains why he continues to ride WWASPS's ass all the while ignoring the elephant in the room (e.g. Whitmore).

It's really a shame the poor guy hasn't figured out he's been beating the wrong drum for the past 3 years or so.

BuzzKill:
No, that is not what I mean -
He's banging on the right drum alright.
He just needs to bang on them all - there are many drums in a drum set - and bongos and all kinds of other things that one also bangs on.
I just think he needs to think about why this one drum isn't getting any play.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-10 10:26:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"No, that is not what I mean -

He's banging on the right drum alright.

He just needs to bang on them all - there are many drums in a drum set - and bongos and all kinds of other things that one also bangs on.

I just think he needs to think about why this one drum isn't getting any play.



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Unlike you Buzz, I lost any and all respect for Berryman after reading about his association with PURE in the court documents.

The guy is smart enough to know WWASPS ain't the only bad kid on the block and that this business of programs paying finder's fees stinks to high heaven.

He's a lost cause.

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