Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
If they only knew....
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-12 19:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just checking in to see if Antigen had an answer to my question.
Buzz - do you keep all your rantings in a notebook? Did you or didn't you go to Discovery?
Again Angigen, What does the program promise that is impossible, or what do they promise at all? You made the statement, why ask Buzz who is notably addicted to her own delusions?
Nihilanthic = with all respect intended: get over yourself. Until you actually have experience and not a fear from what you read, you have no credibility on the subject of seminars or programs. When you comment on something you actually experienced, I'll listen. Hmmm..what could that be other than your need to control other people? Where do you get Dolphin is a bitch?
PHX "
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You didn't address me in this post, but I woyld like to reply.
You keep on asking people, in all kind of ways, "what makes you think you know anything about the seminars?"
Well, PHX, what makes you think YOU know anything about the seminars?
What you think you know about the porgram are all things you've been told by WWASPS. WWASPS, as we all know, truly don't mind lying if it suits their purposes. They lie about the abuse that takes place in their gulags. They lie everytime they call a critic a liar or a manipulator.
You are delusional. You are so wrapped up in your delusions that you can't see what's right in front of you. The abuse, the brainwashing, the complete destruction of human beings and the insertion of a pre-approved programmed personality-- it's all really happening. You're a proof-- just look at your inability to to do anything but defend the Holy Program.
You accuse Nihil of needing to control other people? Again, just look at yourself. You sent your child to a gulag where his/her life, thoughts, even bodily functions would be controlled, regulated and scrutinized 24/7. Where s/he would not be allowed to look sideways, look out a window, speak without permission, or even cross a threshold without asking for the permission of a bunch of undereducated 19-year-old hired to manage the captives.
You are so wrapped up in this. I know you probably can't remember what thinking feels like, but, still, I ask of you: THINK. LOOK. RESEARCH. There's a reason so many (hundreds) of people are talking about the abuse that takes place in the gulags. And don't give one of WWASPS' silly excuses when you reply to this one.
BuzzKill:
//do you keep all your rantings in a notebook? //
Ha, yeah - its called Fornits.
//Did you or didn't you go to Discovery?//
What do you think friend? Do I sound like a seminar grad? Aren't I just a bit to prone to think for myself (stuck in my delusions, if it makes you happy) and (horror or horrors) maintain I am right, if I think I am?
//why ask Buzz who is notably addicted to her own delusions? //
Because I was a program parent and would know? Think that might be it? Those "delusions" are cutting to close to the bone for your comfort, aren't they? I can tell by your increased hostility and attempt to degrade me and so diminish the value of what I have to say. Think about this PHX. Why does it upset you to have the truth told? Why the upset and alarm on your part? Think maybe you've been Programmed to respond in exactly that why? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by believing this to be the case.
*[ This Message was edited by: BuzzKill on 2005-07-13 06:59 ]
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-12 19:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
When you comment on something you actually experienced, I'll listen.
PHX "
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So then.... what years were you a client or student of CCM?
In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
--James Madison, U.S. President
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Nihilanthic:
My grievances, my issues I brought up in very easy to understand terms, deserve to be answered.
Firing back with something they must have told you to say to people like me or the others here, that being "Dont talk about something you havent experienced" is irrelevant. Its a strawman. It doesn't MATTER! What matters is what I brought up.
Do I really need to repeat myself, PHX? No, I dont, you can click on the page buttons, right? Just checking.
Furthermore, if its been acused of being BRAINWASHING by people who have been there, by doctors who went there to research, and by laymen (er, laychildren?) who went there, why the hell would someone WILLINGLY choose to go through that to 'experience' it? I guess those psychologists just dont know shit, and there is no right and wrong, and all hail Gilcrease, right?
We're accusing it of being traumatic, manipulative, and amounting to brainwashing. *WHY* would we choose to go through with that? I guess I need to get tied up and gangraped to know if that is traumatic, right? Well, its YOUR logic here...
Oh, and another thing - we dont have tons and tons of money we can all just throw away to go to these bullshit seminars, PHX. You feel like paying for someone to go? If so, please tell us!
The bottom line is youre repeating your dogmatic "You have to experience it, then you'll understand, and it'll explain and change everything!" (when someone doesnt want to take part of it) and then "Well, no promises! Its all about what you make of it and what you put into it" (when someone went and it didnt work).
So, keep changing your story, keep flip-flopping, and keep worshipping that asshole sheriff and wasting your income (which I'd love to know how the hell a moron like you can get, must be your husbands or old family money :idea:) and keep referring people to mind-control seminars and worshipping the authority figures youve been taught to, becuase youve been made into a damn adult child.
The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.
--William Osler
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-13 09:26:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-07-12 19:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
When you comment on something you actually experienced, I'll listen.
PHX "
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So then.... what years were you a client or student of CCM?
In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
--James Madison, U.S. President
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late 1998- early 2000 - Cross Creek - mom
AND -
BUZZ - you diminish your own credibility every time you post. I don't have to do that for you.
PHX
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