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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2005, 10:35:00 PM »
So that is what this is all about. Paul, versus the forum.

And of course confronting him, and telling him what he needs to hear is exactly playing into his hands, and giving that which he needs more than anything else.

Attention, and validation that his ideals are correct.

It's true that being a parent does not mean you can treat your child as you might wish to, but parents do it none the less.

When it happens of course children rebel. What right do their parents have to force any behaviour of choice from them? None at all. Where does child 'care' begin and end? Who is allowed to make such choices? Where does the childs 'rights' begin and end?

All good questions, and no real hard and fast answers. Unless you ask someone sufficiently motivated to give you a response of choice.

Like Paul it seems. And someone such as he, is simply dying to be asked, and dying to lecture you. It's what he does by admission.

If you ask the question, you can be sure he'll respond. He has to. He needs to. It's what motivates him. Don't complain when he does.

The best that you can do is offer him no credence. If you wish to, refute his words fact for fact. Don't argue opinion, argue the black and whites of your points, and if he chooses to not respond, or ignore your points? Do the same.

On this forum he is as equal as you. And his words have as much effect as you allow them.

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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2005, 10:37:00 PM »
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And everyone who is so protective about their status as a victim of Straight, YOU all especially should practice some self restraint and some respect so that new people might find this site and understand what happened and how to help.

But thats just not what its really about is it? Its only about feeling powerful in this teeny tiny little world. Its too bad.


Round of applause. Very well said.

More people would listen, if the message was more palatable, and easy to understand.

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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2005, 12:23:00 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2005, 02:42:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-01 18:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-07-01 15:51:00, Antigen wrote:


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On 2005-07-01 14:48:00, Anonymous wrote:



"...Yes, Paul, we were all enrolled in Straight for complaining..."







Staff: Ok, now take off all your clothes and squat.




What is wrong with the concept of helping those that might end up with the same plight your went through?


Newcomer: WTF???? Do what? What are you talking about?! I'm not stripping for anybody





S: That's just the druggie attitude that got you here! Now take off your clothes and squat!





and so on, and so forth for an indeterminate period of time till Newcomer splits successfully, graduates, turns of age or is pulled by their parents.





No shit, no exageration here. Some people did get sent to the Program simply for complaining. But we're not helpless children anymore. If you ever happen to meet a program vet in person I recomend you do NOT suggest that they did the necessary things to get themselves in the Program. Especially not in just those terms. It could be hazardous to your physical wellbeing.


Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist



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Yep, from the moment of intake it's check your dignity at the door and then don't even think about getting outta here until you learn to LOVE THE PROGRAM (e.g. The Seed, Straight, CEDU, WWASPS) etc.



I don't think Paul gets it ... that kids are robbed of their dignity and their childhood whether they are/were forced into an anti-drug program or being force fed street drugs like Ritalin or Adderall by order of their parents, teachers or the courts.



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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2005, 02:45:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-01 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-07-01 16:07:00, Paul wrote:


"That is why I think it is important, as an advocate, to suggest the knowledgable veterans of thes horrible experiences organize and get those stickers mandated..."




Meet Paul: tireless, unpaid advocate for mental health and stickers.



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Tireless? Who said there was a problem.

Stickers? What they heck is this about?
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2005, 02:48:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-01 19:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So that is what this is all about. Paul, versus the forum.



And of course confronting him, and telling him what he needs to hear is exactly playing into his hands, and giving that which he needs more than anything else.



Attention, and validation that his ideals are correct.



It's true that being a parent does not mean you can treat your child as you might wish to, but parents do it none the less.



When it happens of course children rebel. What right do their parents have to force any behaviour of choice from them? None at all. Where does child 'care' begin and end? Who is allowed to make such choices? Where does the childs 'rights' begin and end?



All good questions, and no real hard and fast answers. Unless you ask someone sufficiently motivated to give you a response of choice.



Like Paul it seems. And someone such as he, is simply dying to be asked, and dying to lecture you. It's what he does by admission.



If you ask the question, you can be sure he'll respond. He has to. He needs to. It's what motivates him. Don't complain when he does.



The best that you can do is offer him no credence. If you wish to, refute his words fact for fact. Don't argue opinion, argue the black and whites of your points, and if he chooses to not respond, or ignore your points? Do the same.



On this forum he is as equal as you. And his words have as much effect as you allow them.



Anonymous."


Wow!

Learn, choice, action ...

Such a difficult concept to grasp ...
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2005, 02:55:00 AM »
Staff: Everyone, I'd like to introduce Paul...

GROUP: LOVE YA, PAUL!!!!!
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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2005, 02:56:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-01 23:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Staff: Everyone, I'd like to introduce Paul...



GROUP: LOVE YA, PAUL!!!!!  



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Is this a post that is clever?
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2005, 02:58:00 AM »
Have a seat on front row, Paul...
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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2005, 03:05:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-01 23:58:00, Dr Fucktard wrote:

"Have a seat on front row, Paul..."


OK!
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« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2005, 03:07:00 AM »
Pay attention to the person talking.
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« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2005, 03:11:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-02 00:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Pay attention to the person talking."


Hury, I am going to sleep in a couple of minutes ...
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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2005, 03:11:00 AM »
Wake up! No falling asleep in group!
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« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2005, 03:13:00 AM »
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On 2005-07-02 00:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Wake up! No falling asleep in group!"


What if it not interesting, do I have a choice?
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« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2005, 03:15:00 AM »
Think about a specific incident from your past.
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