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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2005, 06:16:00 PM »
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"From an outsider of this teen behavior modification industry, it is the complainers and insult mongers who who make me wonder if your enrollment was your own fault. Sadly nothing seems to have changed in your lives, the only consistancy is juvenile annoyance."



This quote?"


I thought it was from a different post, but ok, on this one I am talking to those that insult. What is the big deal. Ok, it is not the whole forum, nor all that intended these schools, but I am addressing directly the people who are posting insults rather than meaningful content.

I would be interested in seeing the link to this quote, and the dialogue that created it. I am not sure if this is a content or comprehension problem.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »
Check the first post of :

Who thinks PAUL should leave this forum?
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2005, 06:35:00 PM »
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Who thinks PAUL should leave this forum?"


OK, found it. Damn that was funny re-reading that stuff.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 100#113541

It is a comprehension problem here, not a content problem.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2005, 06:42:00 PM »
Oh my, re-reading this ole thread is too funny:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 100#113541

"one can visit a thread without reading it ..."

Surprising where humor happens, eh?
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2005, 06:51:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-01 14:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"...Yes, Paul, we were all enrolled in Straight for complaining..."


Staff: Ok, now take off all your clothes and squat.

Newcomer: WTF???? Do what? What are you talking about?! I'm not stripping for anybody

S: That's just the druggie attitude that got you here! Now take off your clothes and squat!

and so on, and so forth for an indeterminate period of time till Newcomer splits successfully, graduates, turns of age or is pulled by their parents.

No shit, no exageration here. Some people did get sent to the Program simply for complaining. But we're not helpless children anymore. If you ever happen to meet a program vet in person I recomend you do NOT suggest that they did the necessary things to get themselves in the Program. Especially not in just those terms. It could be hazardous to your physical wellbeing.

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2005, 07:02:00 PM »
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No shit, no exageration here. Some people did get sent to the Program simply for complaining. But we're not helpless children anymore. If you ever happen to meet a program vet in person I recomend you do NOT suggest that they did the necessary things to get themselves in the Program. Especially not in just those terms. It could be hazardous to your physical wellbeing.


Ginger, I do appreciate this post.

I do think if someone is hell bent on insulting another person, that eventually that person may say something back. Should they be inclined to handle the response? Or lash out even more?

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Regarding my laughing reading the posts, I should be clear, I was laughing aboue the discussion of reading the post, or not. It was funny, what can I say. Check it out yourself and tell me if it isn't funny.
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2005, 07:05:00 PM »
Do you think maybe you've done something to provoke these responses?

G:   "If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2005, 07:07:00 PM »
On 2005-07-01 14:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"...Yes, Paul, we were all enrolled in Straight for complaining..."

That is why I think it is important, as an advocate, to suggest the knowledgable veterans of thes horrible experiences organize and get those stickers mandated on the phones at each school, so that the kids can call out and complain to the advocacy groups.

Further advocacy could be done, I suppose, for children in regular schools or homeschooling who are threatened with behavioral modification for complaining - to teach them how to complain and protect themselves. I am out of my sphere of experience at this point, so that is all I can suggest.

I would hope it never happens to anyone else in the future. How can it be prevented, is my question?
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2005, 07:09:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-01 16:05:00, Antigen wrote:

"Do you think maybe you've done something to provoke these responses?


Yes.

For instance if I mention voluntary to you, it is a sure way to get a nasty response.

If I mention getting accurate information on mental health issues, of each type of treatment, of any kind, I piss off a bunch of other people.

If I mention mental health advocacy, a whole bunch more get mad ...

Hence the signiture ..
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
my crimes that landed me in straight were smoking a little grass and making C's in school.   I guess I deserved my 15 month enturnment at straight.  Did I complain?  Hell yeah I complained; every fucking day until I was a broken 17 year old.   After awhile, I had enough and played the game...
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2005, 07:31:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-01 16:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

"my crimes that landed me in straight were smoking a little grass and making C's in school.   I guess I deserved my 15 month enturnment at straight.  Did I complain?  Hell yeah I complained; every fucking day until I was a broken 17 year old.   After awhile, I had enough and played the game..."


Bummer, seriously.

Please don't take my suggestions for advocacy to protect those in the future as an insult. It is what I do, so it is a natural for me to recommend it.
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2005, 08:44:00 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2005, 09:43:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-01 15:51:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-07-01 14:48:00, Anonymous wrote:


"...Yes, Paul, we were all enrolled in Straight for complaining..."




Staff: Ok, now take off all your clothes and squat.



Newcomer: WTF???? Do what? What are you talking about?! I'm not stripping for anybody



S: That's just the druggie attitude that got you here! Now take off your clothes and squat!



and so on, and so forth for an indeterminate period of time till Newcomer splits successfully, graduates, turns of age or is pulled by their parents.



No shit, no exageration here. Some people did get sent to the Program simply for complaining. But we're not helpless children anymore. If you ever happen to meet a program vet in person I recomend you do NOT suggest that they did the necessary things to get themselves in the Program. Especially not in just those terms. It could be hazardous to your physical wellbeing.

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist


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Yep, from the moment of intake it's check your dignity at the door and then don't even think about getting outta here until you learn to LOVE THE PROGRAM (e.g. The Seed, Straight, CEDU, WWASPS) etc.

I don't think Paul gets it ... that kids are robbed of their dignity and their childhood whether they are/were forced into an anti-drug program or being force fed street drugs like Ritalin or Adderall by order of their parents, teachers or the courts.
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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2005, 09:47:00 PM »
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Yes, Paul, we were all enrolled in Straight for complaining and insult-mongering on an internet message board. Now run along before somebody locks YOU up. Run!

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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2005, 10:06:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-01 16:07:00, Paul wrote:

"That is why I think it is important, as an advocate, to suggest the knowledgable veterans of thes horrible experiences organize and get those stickers mandated..."


Meet Paul: tireless, unpaid advocate for mental health and stickers.
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