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Anonymous:
And after all they did to keep you alive? lol I can't take it. To the death! ha ha, that's funny.  some people just can't see past their own exp. and find it necc. to defend the harmful actions upon others just b/c they werent (or perhaps they were) directed directly at them or maybe they just can't do it b/c they would have been DEAD without the school.  sigh, whadya goin' to do. speaks volumes, doesn't it?  I can undestand defending Gary, but John- NO ONE says John is a good guy, he's a creep  and Colleen is his side kick.  ha ha- i just pciture them wearing action figue costumes, flying around saying kids from certain death through knowing look of 'i got you bullshit' and sending kid to work out her anger on a pile of wood  for fire for their personal use in their log cabin.  such a joke.

anyways i read this and cut and pasted it  


I'm not willing to dismiss your anecdotal evidence as easily as others. If you had positive experiences then that is great. I'm really glad it worked out.

For me, the coercive part is the most objectionable aspect. It's the concept that a group of people can force an ideology onto someone against their will. In the case of Brat Camp, it is difficult to understand my objections. Who can object to turning drug abusing teens into well behaving teens? But did you know that some of these camps are designed to force a 'Christian' perspective on the students? Did you know there are camps that are designed to force gay kids into being straight? These kids are also in these camps against their will (parents can do this in the USA).

I watch the show and cringe thinking of how I would have reacted to these counselors and this form of therapy. My core values are not popular and often misunderstood. I formed these values during childhood. They are not my parents values. Had I been sent to one of these camps and forced to act in a certain way to progress through the program, knowing that if I did not give in, the chances would be good that I would end up in one of these oppressive boarding schools, I honestly think I would become either homicidal or suicidal; the tragic result of which the program would call my 'choice.' To me, this process is too close to 'A Clockwork Orange' and too Orwellian in nature to be ethical.

Even the language used. "We are giving these kids the opportunity to change." That implies choice where there really is not choice. The student must accept the program, period. The program will not the student go until he submits. That is coercion, which to me is intrinsically wrong. The ends does not justify the means.
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Anonymous:
i will make sure as many people possible understand just how harmful mms was to me and others~ 'till the grave

Anonymous:
okay so tell us...just how harmful and how messed up it made you...
after all your parents sent you there so why no look at them first?? didn't they agree to what when on?
my parents did.....

Anonymous:
my parents didn't know what was going on.  and  what little they did know went a long with the lack of understanding how damging it was.

Anonymous:
parents can agree to all kinds of things- what a stupid point to attempt to make.  parents may make mistakes- parents may agree that certain types of abuse are good- they are human and fallible and sometimes wrong.

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