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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2005, 06:34:00 PM »
Right. Parents did not send their children to Whitmore because they were simply tired of dealing with them. Most if not all the children were being seen by professionals prior to their placement at Whitmore. Parents were DECEIVED by fraud, and false advertising-- and believed the Whitmore would provide Education and various Therapy--SERVICES promised by contractual agreement, and PAID FOR.

As for Caitlyn/MOUSE: it is not 'Belittling' to ask a person why they are out-right lying. And it has been stated that this girl is most probably being used. No one has every blamed these children for what they have done at the direction of the owner(s) of Whitmore; this girl included. Never believed Caitlyn/MOUSE really knows or cares about the 'inner workings' of PURE in the first place--so who knows if Caitlyn/MOUSE is actually the "TYPIST" anyway, or if  it's just Cheryl using her name?????
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2005, 07:06:00 PM »
Therapy implies a need for trained mental health professionals.  What were YOU doing to ensure this was in place?  

Any responsible parent would have conducted a thorough investigation prior to sending their child anywhere.

Reading an advertisement or contract isn't enough....it is your responsibility as a parent to do what is right by your child.  When you don't, you are neglecting your child and this is CHILD ABUSE.  You gave your power as a parent to a complete stranger who happens to be so conveniently a long way from your home.  (OUT OF SITE = DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM!  'Fess up now...someday YOU will have to look in the mirror!!)

And, by the way, isn't it strange that not one child complained of being hurt by anyone at Whitmore on Parents Day?  

It's the leaf-tree thing....parents have issues...therefore..so, do the children.  DEAL with it!!!
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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »
Talked to and checked the license on the Therapist: Tim Lowe.
He was licensed by the State of Utah, and had no criminal history, or lawsuits against him at all.
At the time: the only thing that showed up negative that was really of concern  about the Sudweeks was the animal abuse in Canada--and this was explained away by the Sudweeks, and the referring agency, Sue Scheff of PURE--the same way they keep "explaining it away on this forum."
Sadly, we believed them.

At the time of placement: Whitmore Academy WAS LICENSED by the State of Utah as a treatment facility.  This license was revoked after the abuse allegations in November 2004. Parents WERE RESPONSIBLE.

The owners were the irresponsible parties HERE!!!  

One parent DID remove her child during parents weekend! Think she did not take lightly to the son being thrown down the stairs by Cheryl Sudweeks.
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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2005, 07:35:00 PM »
What is this???  Blame the victims?  Blame the parents?

HOW ABOUT BLAMING THE ABUSERS?
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2005, 07:52:00 PM »
NOT ENOUGH....talking to two people does not constitute a thorough investigation...particularly when they are all connected through the $$$ end.

All states grant licenses to various facilities and individuals for various purposes.  It does not mean the state endorses the facility or the credibility of the person.

It takes more than looking for licensure...almost anyone can get that..I'll bet you can find one on the internet for a small price!!

YOU should have done your homework.....that is the point......GET IT??  JEEZ....animal abuse should have been enough of a CLUE!!!!

But, I guess you were in a HURRY???!!!  Sounds IRRESPONSIBLE to me!!!
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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2005, 07:56:00 PM »
Hello Sue----playing lawyer again are you?
Best leave this to the big boys who are qualified don't you think?
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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »
What's irresponsible if a referring company that sends parents and kids to a program, knowing the owners are being investigated for criminal child abuse, and then continuing to send parents and kids to this program after charges have been filed! Now that's irresponsible!!!!!
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« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2005, 08:03:00 PM »
Bottom line:
Cheryl Sudweeks has been charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.

The investigation is still ongoing!
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!
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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2005, 08:04:00 PM »
Who referred most if not ALL these parents and kids to Whitmore? Sue Scheff and PURE.
SPEAKS for itself, too!
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« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2005, 08:09:00 PM »
It's real hard to look inward and put blame where blame belongs...EVERYONE has a sales  pitch...it is the buyer who must beware.  

Surely, if you were to buy a new or used car,you would give more time to checking it out than most of you have given to the WA...For gosh sakes, these are your children...FRAGILE CHILDREN at that....not some piece of metal.

NOW, let' talk about where the blame lies....it is in the hands of the ones who made the decision to send their children away rather than looking for answers at home.  FACE IT!
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« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.

Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore.
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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2005, 09:15:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-26 17:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.



Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore."


WAH! WAH! WAH!  Do you want cheese with all that whine???

ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!  

ANYONE can be charged....AND, anyone can press charges...with enough manipulation of the system and the children.

Wonder if you are planning a civil suit after all is said and done...wouldn't be a big surprise.  MONEY makes the world go 'round...that's how you got into this in the first place....you sent your children away because you could monetarily afford it...Almost $40,000....That's a LOT OF IRRESPONSIBLE spending without a THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.....!!!

BY THE WAY, WHILE you are on this website all day long, where are your children?  Who is taking care of them?  You spend all your time here...whining...and, probably looking for another place to send your kids away!!!  AMAZING!
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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-26 17:10:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.





Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore."




WAH! WAH! WAH!  Do you want cheese with all that whine???



ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!  



ANYONE can be charged....AND, anyone can press charges...with enough manipulation of the system and the children.



Wonder if you are planning a civil suit after all is said and done...wouldn't be a big surprise.  MONEY makes the world go 'round...that's how you got into this in the first place....you sent your children away because you could monetarily afford it...Almost $40,000....That's a LOT OF IRRESPONSIBLE spending without a THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.....!!!



BY THE WAY, WHILE you are on this website all day long, where are your children?  Who is taking care of them?  You spend all your time here...whining...and, probably looking for another place to send your kids away!!!  AMAZING!



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WRONG.. the only parents wasting their time (and money) are those who keep their kid in any program accused of abusing their children.

Talk about AMAZING ... what kind of a parent does that?  

One stuck on stupid?
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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2005, 10:01:00 PM »
WRONG.. the only parents wasting their time (and money) are those who keep their kid in any program accused of abusing their children.



Talk about AMAZING ... what kind of a parent does that?  



One stuck on stupid?



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STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!  If the shoe fits...etc.

So, what about where the children are when you spend all your time on this website?  Who's caring for them?

Talk about STUCK on STUPID!!
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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2005, 10:20:00 PM »
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ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!
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Sounds just like a wwasp supporter. Its like they think it is the parent's fault the child was battered by the people who are supposed to be providing therapy and education.
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