Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote ---According to the A&E video, RedCliff Ascent forces kids to hike by twisting their joints in ways they are not supposed to go in order to cause the victim pain.
http://fornits.com/anonanon/video/RedCliff.ram
If they do not consider this child abuse then I wonder what they would consider abuse.
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Its not abuse, its assault. Restraint is not using submission holds, aka newaza from a Judo/Juujutsu school. Shit from marital arts, Pro wrestling, and the UFC belongs in a dojo, in a ring, and on Spike TV, respectively, NOT with children getting 'therapy'!
I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say that one is an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or agnostic. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect that he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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Anonymous:
I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life. Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with. I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out. Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---His "mother" (and each time I am using the term more and more loosely) has PLANS. She has sailing events at the Yacht Club, and other plans with her boyfriend. So he must remain in the desert, humiliated and angry.
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Well, if it would so disrupt her social calendar why can't he come and stay with you? :flame:
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-27 21:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life. Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with. I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out. Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do."
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And exactly what good can it possibly do to someone whose only problem is a narcissistic mother?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-27 21:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life. Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with. I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out. Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do."
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Did they twist your arm and your wrists to get you to hike? Were you strip searched? Just curious. I am glad you got through it in 50 days. The 13-year-old in the video was still there after 83 days! That is a very long time for a 13-year-old to be away from his family. This kid also said they forced hiking by twisting arms and applying pressure to wrists.
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