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tommyfromhyde1:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-14 14:54:00, Deborah wrote:
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Well, there's their first strike. Fraud.
Traditional boarding schools do not warehouse kids 24/7/365, provide any form of therapy or BM, do not interfere with contact with parents, do not deny home visits for academic incompletes, blah, blah, blah.
We all know the many reasons they do not fit the catergory.
How does this benefit them? Do you know if they are licensed Tommy?
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Look at the third FAQ in the column on the right.
They don't have to be licensed as a "theraputic
boarding school" if they don't claim to be one.
http://www.hyde.edu/page.ww?section=Abo ... me=Welcome
Nice job of avoiding the issue if you ask me.
For the most part we inherit our opinions. We are the heirs of habits and mental customs. Our beliefs, like the fashion of our garments, depend on where we were born. We are molded and fashioned by our surroundings.
--Environment is a sculptor -- a painter.
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Antigen:
Oh my, Tommy. May I bring to your attention the illustrious career of one Melvin Riddle.
I sure wish some recent or current students of his would step up and provide us a merit review on him. Meanwhile, here's all we got.
Google Mel Riddle
I'm pretty sure ISAC has some material on him too.
One has to multiply thoughts to the point where there aren't enough
policemen to control them
--Stanislaw Lec
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-10 14:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The child's assigned therapist is spectacular. We get to talk to her for 15 minutes a week, and she is just wonderful. She tells it like it is. She really cares. Her focus is entirely on the kids."
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Be careful. These people are master manipulators. Pretending to be concerned for the children is what they do for a living. Remember, she isn't working for you and she isn't working for your son. Don't be lulled into a false sense of security. Be very careful what you say to her. It may be used against you at a later date.
I assume contact is by telephone. I suggest you do as someone else has suggested and record everything.
Anonymous:
More on RedCliff:
Salt Lake Tribune (Utah)
December 16, 2000, Saturday
SECTION: Final; Pg. D4
LENGTH: 655 words
HEADLINE: No Charges in Clothes Confiscation Case At RedCliff
BYLINE: THOMAS BURR, SPECIAL TO THE TRIBUNE
BODY:
CEDAR CITY - Iron County Attorney Scott Burns said he has no plans to file charges against a wilderness survival program for an incident last week when staff members of the program took away clothes from a 14-year-old boy as a punishment.
The boy, from Salem, Mass., ran away from the RedCliff Ascent program in the southwestern Utah desert Dec. 5 after a male counselor took away his pants and shoes because he refused to help with camp duties and hike with the group. The boy was found six hours later hiding in the underbrush dressed in only a T-shirt, underwear and socks.
Burns said there appears to be no abuse by the counselors and the boy was not placed in any danger, until he decided to run away.
"There was no criminal intent on the part of the counselors," Burns said Thursday, "And I found no recklessness or negligence. This kid is 14 years old and he made the conscious decision to run."
The Department of Human Services, which licenses the RedCliff program, and the Department of Children and Family Services are continuing to investigate the incident.
Rob Ross, a licensing specialist with the Department of Human Services who visited the RedCliff program, north of Beryl in Iron County, on Tuesday with DCFS officials, said it appears RedCliff "responded in an appropriate manner" to the incident.
An incident report from the Iron County Sheriff's Office says the male counselor, who was not identified, took the boy's clothing as "the only way he had to get [him] to work with the group." The report also stated that sometimes the boy was only in his underwear and that "every day this week [the counselor] had to take [the boy's] clothing because he would not hike."
The boy told investigators with the sheriff's office that he cooperated with counselors and did everything he was asked to do. The report also stated he was "very cold" after his clothes were taken. The boy was examined by a doctor after being found and was given a clean bill of health.
The boy has been returned to finish the program with new counselors. The unidentified counselors involved in the incident have been suspended until the investigations are complete.
Scott Schill, field director of the RedCliff Ascent program, based in Springville, said they have finished an internal investigation and believe this to be an isolated incident. Schill said the staff members have been given a warning that if this type of situation arises again they will be relieved of their duties.
The male staff member, Schill said, may not be returning to the company by his own choice, and the female staff member will possibly go through RedCliff's seven-day training program again.
"It's one of the inherent aspects of wilderness programs," Schill said. "It's impossible to monitor it on a constant basis. It's unfortunate."
Schill also said at the time the boy's clothes were taken away the temperature in the sun was 72 degrees, according to the counselors.
William Alder, head meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Salt Lake City, said records show a high in the area of 52 degrees, and a low of 22 degrees. Alder doubts it could have topped 55 degrees during this time of year and noted that the hottest place that day in Utah was St. George with 64 degrees.
Schill disputes the weather service temperature as a general reading for the area and said he was out in the desert in his T-shirt and socks looking for the boy and was "very comfortable."
This is not the first time RedACliff has experienced trouble with its program.
Last December, eight teen-age boys escaped from the camp in southwestern Utah after beating up a male counselor, drawing international attention with a four-day search by multiple law enforcement agencies. The eight were eventually caught and charged with felony assault. Some of the boys pleaded guilty to those charges earlier this year.
Anonymous:
Here are the Utah state regs for wilderness programs:
http://www.code-co.com/utah/admin/2001/r501008.htm
D. Program Requirements
5. Each consumer shall have clothing and equipment to protect the consumer from the environment. This equipment shall never be removed, denied, or made unavailable to a consumer. ... There shall never be a deprivation of any equipment as a consequence. Such equipment shall include:
h. basic clothing list to ensure consumer protection against seasonal change in the environment
They flouted this regulation and, as a result, a rescue operation had to be mounted to find the boy before he died of exposure. Yet the authorities did nothing to enforce the code. It seems "consequences" are just for the kids, not the programs.
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