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Paul:
Does anyone else at Fornit's need assistance
in understanding what the word "voluntary"
means when being offered medical help?

Deborah interprets voluntary as forced
drugging, in her words. No amount of voluntary
explanations and realities will sway her
interpretation that voluntary means voluntary.

Is this a major problem here at Fornit's that
somehow voluntary equates to forced?

Carmel:
hmmm...well the way I see it is...voluntary treatment is an oxymoron.  Should you happen to find yourself "volunteering"...well then thats 99% of the battle.

No one ever changes because they are forced/asked/beaten/drugged to.  So if someone is voluntary ready to change....why do they need "treatment"?  

You are only responsible for yourself........ultimately, in a very strict sense of the word.

Paul:
In California the only way to have treatment
involuntary carried out is if the person
is a danger to themselves, danger to others
or gravely disabled.

Paul:

--- Quote ---On 2005-06-15 20:45:00, Carmel wrote:

"hmmm...well the way I see it is...voluntary treatment is an oxymoron.  Should you happen to find yourself "volunteering"...well then thats 99% of the battle.



No one ever changes because they are forced/asked/beaten/drugged to.  So if someone is voluntary ready to change....why do they need "treatment"?  



You are only responsible for yourself........ultimately, in a very strict sense of the word.
"

--- End quote ---


You are absolutely right, unless one becomes
a danger to themselves, others or are gravely
disbled.

Then they are not free ... that is what the
public voted in as the law.

Deborah:
Voluntary:
implies freedom and spontaneity of choice or action without external compulsion

done by design or Intention- stresses an awareness of an end to be achieved

Synanomous with Deliberate- implies full consciousness of the nature of one's act AND its consequences

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