Does Deborah's Anti-Psychiatry posts help anyone?

[Antigen]

On 2005-06-16 12:29:00, thepatriot wrote:

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Ahh gee that is a hard one Ginger, I as the parent should be the only one who decides what is age appropriate for my child, not you, not the school district. My whole point was the content...CONTENT teaching 5th and 6th graders about oral sex is bullshit. Or would it depend on the child maybe some are ready....give me a fucking break already.

Like I said schools should stick to acedemics period.

Well, that's my point. To you and a lot of other people, that's just plain wrong. Can't you see how wrong that is? What's wrong with you, that you can't see what's wrong with that? Unless, of course, you think the schools are competent to teach these subjects as well or better than you can and you see the classroom setting as a perfectly appropriate environment. In that case, well, what's wrong with you that you can't see that? Are you mad? Paranoid? Overly protective?

You see the dilema. Inteligent, reasonable people of good character can take either side of the argument and neither one would ever be more right than the other. So it has no place in the public sector, it is definitely not one of those thing that can be done better, if at all, by government.  

Same goes for any topic of education. Do you believe in sight words or phonetics? At what age do you put your foot down and insist that your kid start reading? Do you read to them or let them struggle through?

And that's just 2nd grade (what we used to start doing in kindergarten!)

Onto history and world events. Wanna talk about complicated? Read up on how the NEA constantly lobbys for even more political correctness censorship in textbooks and other allegedly educational material. How long before just one of those ivy tower idiots demonstrates enough prescience to cut to the chase, issues a recomendation for blank text books and is summarily fired w/ cause  and prejudice for his temporary lapse of insanity.

 :silly:

Nope, education is not something we want to be standardized and medeocre. If we really want first rate education for our kids, we keep them out of school and make damned sure they get it.

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

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[Antigen]

On 2005-06-16 14:23:00, Truth Searcher wrote:

"It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word!" -- Andrew Jackson

Oooooh, I love that! And Jackson is an ancenstor to my husband and kids. (which might help explain why he's the Bastard Administrator, among other things.... spellchecker my arse!)

God is the...refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find no sanctuary in His arms, but...a kind of superiority, soothing to their...egos: He will set them above their betters.
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[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-16 17:24:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-06-16 14:23:00, Truth Searcher wrote:



"It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word!" -- Andrew Jackson

Oooooh, I love that! And Jackson is an ancenstor to my husband and kids. (which might help explain why he's the Bastard Administrator, among other things.... spellchecker my arse!)

God is the...refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find no sanctuary in His arms, but...a kind of superiority, soothing to their...egos: He will set them above their betters.

--H. L. Mencken, American publisher

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Awww come on Hun I'm challenged I need spell checker

[Paul]

How about reading my posts?

Add voluntary:


On 2005-06-16 12:50:00, Deborah wrote:

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No, he's a promoter of Mental Health Treatment, nation-wide screening of all children for mental illness, sex survey to sixth graders.... and anything else the shrinkydinks want to foust on the public."
 


Thanks Deb, well I guess that says it all, whay not nation wide screening for shit-bag parents.MMMMM now theres a thought, Paul where are you on this one? "



Can you all spell and understand voluntary?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-16 13:30:00, thepatriot wrote:

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On 2005-06-16 13:14:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-06-16 12:29:00, thepatriot wrote:



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Like I said schools should stick to acedemics period.

Patriot, the word is spelled academics.....  But your lack of spelling ability does kind of inadvertantly prove your point: Schools should be focusing on academics--literacy, math, writing skills, and lay off the social engineering.  If schools couldn't teach you to spell properly, I don't think they could appropriately teach sex ed to 5th and 6th graders.  Let the little bastards learn from pornographic magazines like we did."

Ok so what are you an English lit major or what?  No spelling is not my forte nor are people that make them little selves feel superior in their OWN MIND by pointing it out.

No, I'm not an English lit major, (hell I didn't even graduate college) just someone who likes to taunt illiterate buffoons.  Also, the correct grammer would be "people that make their little selves feel better..."

Yes my spelling sucks, But ya know what for a guy who can?t spell for shit or put together a sentence I?ll bet I pay more in taxes quarterly than you make in a year.

Yeah, I hear there's big money in gay porn.

But thanks for pointing it out. Maybe I will pick up some remedial?? spelling? readin and spellin classes at my local Junior College



 :wave:

[thepatriot]

On 2005-06-16 20:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-06-16 13:30:00, thepatriot wrote:


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On 2005-06-16 13:14:00, Anonymous wrote:



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On 2005-06-16 12:29:00, thepatriot wrote:




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Like I said schools should stick to acedemics period.

Patriot, the word is spelled academics.....  But your lack of spelling ability does kind of inadvertantly prove your point: Schools should be focusing on academics--literacy, math, writing skills, and lay off the social engineering.  If schools couldn't teach you to spell properly, I don't think they could appropriately teach sex ed to 5th and 6th graders.  Let the little bastards learn from pornographic magazines like we did."

Ok so what are you an English lit major or what?  No spelling is not my forte nor are people that make them little selves feel superior in their OWN MIND by pointing it out.

No, I'm not an English lit major, (hell I didn't even graduate college) just someone who likes to taunt illiterate buffoons.  Also, the correct grammer would be "people that make their little selves feel better..."

Yes my spelling sucks, But ya know what for a guy who can?t spell for shit or put together a sentence I?ll bet I pay more in taxes quarterly than you make in a year.

Yeah, I hear there's big money in gay porn.

But thanks for pointing it out. Maybe I will pick up some remedial?? spelling? readin and spellin classes at my local Junior College





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Paul...is that you behind that bag, wee little man
I can only imagine being a homeless loser sucks. But pull the crack pipe out of your mouth and dick out of your ass and maybe things will get better for you. Smile...Micheal Jackson loves you  :lol: [ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2005-06-16 21:15 ]

[Antigen]

On 2005-06-16 19:54:00, Paul wrote:

Can you all spell and understand voluntary?

Can you spell and understand politicians who lie for a living and will say damned near anything... no, way, anything at all to keep those lobby funds flowing?

How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate, they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451524934/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>George Orwell, 1984

[Paul]

Well Ginger there is no doubt you will be changing
the system that you fault.

[Deborah]

***Paul...is that you behind that bag, wee little man I can only imagine being a homeless loser sucks. But pull the crack pipe out of your mouth and dick out of your ass and maybe things will get better for you. Smile...Micheal Jackson loves you***

Will Dr. House be right on this one?

[Paul]

Deborah,

I just clicked onto this site that was mentioned
in the article you posted on a different thread.

Notice their slogan:

Ablechild.org
Parents for Label and Drug Free Education

I guess you don't get it do you?

Perhaps you could look up "label" and learn something?

[Paul]

Deborah, you got me here, I have no
idea what you are talking about.

I do appreciate the labels though, it
makes you more and more irrelevant,
and you are doing it all to yourself!

[Paul]

I don't know this reference either?

"Will Dr. House be right on this one?"

Frankly, your entire post seems to be
rather amped up, what is up:

***Paul...is that you behind that bag, wee little man I can only imagine being a homeless loser sucks. But pull the crack pipe out of your mouth and dick out of your ass and maybe things will get better for you. Smile...Micheal Jackson loves you***

Will Dr. House be right on this one?

Hmmm, do I have to respond to these teen rants?

1) I am not homeless
2) I don't smoke crack
3) I don't believe anatomically I could put my dick into my ass, nor am I going to try for your benefit. It is just not relevant to me, sorry.
4) Things are fine with me, thanks for your concern.
5) Smile, ok, got that one!
6) Michael Jackson love me, golly that is wonderful, thanks for the information, I didn't
ask for it, but now that you told me, well jeeperz, it still doesn't matter.

Now your turn:
1) Explain your post?
2) Why so volatile and angry?
3) Why resort to teen banter?

Gotta run and attend an all day meeting with
http://www.cnmhc.org

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-16 09:01:00, Paul wrote:

"What is your solution to not teaching sex ed?



When someone does get AIDS it is your goverment

with your tax dollars that pays for it.



Do you really think kids don't know about sex,

when you ask them and they deny it? Seriously now.



From what I hear you want to schools to not educate

about sex, not to screen for mental illness, correct.



Then when someone is diagnosed with a serious and persistant mental illness and they figure out that it started when they where younger you would not suggest that perhaps a screening would have helped this person. You would be satisfied the signs where all there, but the schools where not allowed to address the issue?



Why not? Because one family decided to not open their mail, while the rest of the town received their information on the TeenScreen, that you want

to throw out the whole test. Smart, very smart.



My illness would have shown up earlier in a screening. I wish they had them then, and I support them now. A couple of false positives can easily be figured out in a follow up appointment. These tests are simply information to be used as the family wishes, not a branding on one's forhead.



Regarding sex education, so what if they learn these things in school, isn't it better that learning it from the kids in the neighborhood?



How did you learn about sex? Should we all learn the way you did?"

Public sex education is a couple hours, and takes place when you are in SIXTH GRADE! If you think this is better than parents can provide, WOW.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-14 23:27:00, Paul wrote:

"Please post if Deborah's posts have either

helped or hurt anyone?"

I find her posts to be very informative and helpful. Why do you feel the need for this public judgement, or rather, what purpose is this thread to serve, if any? ::crybaby::

[Anonymous]

IMO, public sex education is simply an option for parents too embarassed to teach their own children about sex.