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Does Deborah's Anti-Psychiatry posts help anyone?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 11:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its not a matter of teaching sex ed, it is a matter of content and age appropriate content, why is that so hard to understand. 5th and 6th graders being taught about oral sex is not appropriate. If you think it is then hire Michael Jackson to home school your kids."
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I would beg to differ with you. Who decides what is or is not appropriate information for a particular child?
I never wanted to discuss certain things w/ my 9yo daughter till she was far older. Unfortunately, her father exposed her to a lot of things that were extremely inapropriate for a kid that age. So what would you do? Leave the kid in the dark and let her wonder for a few years? Let the schoolpeople decide? Send her to a shrink? Or just butch up and answer her questions... ya' know, like a.... what's the term... it's sort of arcane... Oh yeah! Like a PARENT.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
Douglas Adams, _Last Chance to See_
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Truth Searcher:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 11:51:00, Paul wrote:
"I am 49, when I was in school there was a demand
from students to augment the curriculum with
more relevant classes.
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I too am in the "forty something" category. I remember that our sex ed consisted of learning about body parts and their function. We learned the mechanics of reproduction (not necessarily the sex act, but rather that the sperm fertilized the egg kinda thing ::blushing:: ). And we were segregated into male/female groups. I attended with my mother. She was able to support me afterward and answer any questions that may arise. Fast forward 20 plus years to our children's experience.
Learn about anal, oral sex. (I don't think I knew about such things until my later high school years.... I know I was naive :smile: ) in the classroom setting. Learn how to properly use a condom by practicing on a banana in a mixed peer group. Talk about any sexual experience in mixed company. Etc, etc, etc.
It is not "sex education" per say that I am opposed to. Kids need to know about the mechanics, etc. And in todays world of disease, they need to know about AIDS, HPV, and teen pregnancy rates. I know that not all parents take it upon themselves to educate their children. I guess my beef is that in our school district it is a part of the "normal curriculum". I had to jump through hoops to get the district to waive the required high school course. My kids were more interested in academia and prepping for college than "learning" what has been a life long discourse in our home.
I don't blame the school district. It is a societal problem.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 11:51:00, Paul wrote:
Looks like the schools are damned if they do
and damned if they don't.
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That's right, they are. Because they're publicly funded, they must restrict the curriculum to only topics and treatment of those topics approved by all of the parents. Of course, this is a rediculous notion in what we laughingly call a free country. No way at all to reach any meaningful consensus.
--- Quote ---Are you all attending the school board meetings
in your communities to help out?
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Nope. But we did attend a dandy picnic a week or so ago w/ other homeschoolers. And we'll certainly bring some family favorites to the Not Back to School picknic in September. Among other topics of discussion that often come up at these events, we'll probably have a lively little debate about how best to overturn compulsory schooling laws, defund public schooling and improve prospects for a real education for the net generation.
There's no "I" in team.
There's no "U" in team, either.
So... if you're not on the team and I'm not on the team, then who's on the fucking team?
yea, the team sux...down with the team
The Great Jack and King Rea
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thepatriot:
Ahh gee that is a hard one Ginger, I as the parent should be the only one who decides what is age appropriate for my child, not you, not the school district. My whole point was the content...CONTENT teaching 5th and 6th graders about oral sex is bullshit. Or would it depend on the child maybe some are ready....give me a fucking break already.
Like I said schools should stick to acedemics period.[ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2005-06-16 12:30 ]
webcrawler:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 12:09:00, Paul wrote:
"So in your town 12 year olds know nothing about sex?
The very first they would have heard the word sex is in the school sex ed classes?
Wow, maybe it is needed where you are from.
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Kids are not stupid, come on now."
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I knew from experience at 12. I was kept in the dark. My parents sure didn't do the job and it was unheard of for a school to tell me all about. Sadly, there are parents out there that don't talk to their kids so I can see where you are coming from Paul.
I just don't trust most schools enough to not force their own thoughts on morality down my children's throats. My child did watch a film about development last year and this year because I signed a consent form. We then discussed the films. Very uncomfortable to me, but then again I had to get over it because I don't want her to follow my path as a teen.
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