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TRUCKER:
I wonder how many kids made it to the end of program? How many kids from the courts made it? Would the numbers be the same for all rehabs? What would be the numbers for the ones who came back. To bad this info wasnt kept in some federal file cabinet that the fredom of info. act could be used for.
                   TRUCKER

cleveland:
I remember when I graduated my program at six months I was counted as a success. A year later I filled out a form showing that I was still a success. I don't think anyone was ever taken off of the success list; I guess if you left, and many kids did, it was thought that you had failed the seed, not that it had failed you. So Art could claim a 98% success rate. I would guess that of every ten newcomers, two would leave within a year, six within two years, and two at the most would stick around...



[ This Message was edited by: cleveland on 2005-06-06 18:36 ]

GregFL:
I graduated!


Aint ya proud!!!


 :grin:

Antigen:
Let's see here. I split after two years and, I'm pretty sure, very shortly before I would have graduated. But my brother graduated twice. Do I at least get to cancel out one of his graduations? Then there's the other brother who didn't graduate to cancel out one more. That would leave only one brother from the 6 of us, and his graduation was more of a bum's rush; "We give up, you're just not going to get it, you're graduated. Now get out and don't come back!"

Now that I think about it, it makes me sort of proud.
Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean.
-- John Muir

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marshall:
I was a kid from the courts & I graduated. When I was there, those from the courts were usually kept on the program a few months longer than the rest. I remember two from georgia who returned for a 'refresher' course. One was the son of the person directly responsible for my going to the seed. My observation at the time was that the majority of those that started the program did graduate. What happened to them then is where it gets murky...how many stayed off drugs? How many started drinking? How many started, then stopped again on their own or via other programs? How many developed what the seed considered attitude problems? One oldtimer I knew thought he had screwed-up and was full of shit, blah blah...& felt guilty simply because he had been having sex with his steady girlfriend. This was after he'd been off the program for years. Encountering this sort of thinking strengthened my decision to distance myself further from program ideology. Something didn't seem quiet right to me about such thinking.

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