Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
forced child labor camp
katfish:
For California attorney general on us of excersize as punishment
http://www.pesoftware.com/Resources/exercise.html
Antigen:
Kat, this is a very interesting discussion for a number of reasons.
First off, what you're learning in school is completely at odds w/ the vast majority of American culture. And I think, to a great extent, the old fashioned ways are far superior to the new psychologized, scientized ideas about child rearing.
But there's a bait and switch going on here. When these salesmen describe structure, discipline and accountability we old farts get nostalgic for the good old days. When I was a kid, if I got caught out of bounds (which was not near so often as I actually went exploring) or commiting any other transgression, my dad would give me hard labour. I'd be scraping and painting the house or mowing the lawn or cleaning out a utility room that hadn't seen a broom in years! I was alright w/ that. Even if I was sure my dad was, he was the dad and I took my lumps. Also got the satisfaction of a job well done and being able to call it done and over with, having redeamed myself of the transgression (till next time... heh) Plus, it was my damned house. He never handed me any meaningless, worthless work. It was always something worth doing.
I do pretty much the same thing w/ my kids, thought not quite such hard work. And, like my dad always did, once they get started and show some interest, I forgive them and pitch in. Usually, we all wind up throwing in on whatever the project is.
But that's not what's going on at MMS, is it? But the're bying it. They think these Synanon based programs are just doing things the old fashioned way when, in reality, it's a whole lot closer to good old fashioned Maoist indoctrination.
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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Anonymous:
HAHA! YOU ROCK! I totally agree....
Anonymous:
. . . because California is soooooo successful, right? :razz:
Anonymous:
Actually....I think it is what the school is doing..Although they seem to play with the extreme line.
When we would "get out of line" either as a group or individually they would give us consequenses like that.
we would shovel, have projects...ie...personal inteventions..we moved burn piles, built fences, dug out stumps,
we did the same as group yet we had pysical challenges. ie, skiing up the summit of something or acomplishing a certian mile ski.
These things wouldn't happen unless we started the day with a goal and one or more persons would not finish the goal. Even as a group we would build fences and have hug projects to do....anyone remember PNAIS?? I remember we liked the huge project because it kept us on our computers but not on our bikes.
Well my point is that MMS did the same thing that your dad did...just on a bigger scale.
and this whole abuse thing is getting OUT OF HAND.The word is being thrown out there with no true validity to it.
Did we enjoy every little thing we went through at MMS?? did we agree with everything that we did at mms?? No
Are we not better people for it??? did it teach us strength and skills for life, Are we not able to better handle what normally would be hard situations?? let me give you an example of my life and what im talking about. the first year after MMS I was raped....i wouldn't have known whaqt do with out MMS. My parents didn't even beleive me and the issues with my mom got worse and i only know how to deal with her due to the skills i learned....
Anyway im rambling...just wanted to put in my two sense
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