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« Reply #135 on: June 24, 2005, 11:48:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-24 08:27:00, OverLordd wrote:

"I just pinged the struggeling teens board, and here is what I found out.



Apprently this is a board for people who agree with each other only, we cannot troll them as they troll us apprently, because they are seemingly in a emotionally fragle state. ( Hell I would be to if I decided to hurt my kid) They require log ins, and registration, I would register and blast them, if I was sure that they wold not pull it down, lock me out, and most likely call my parents (hehe, They got my back enough, I dont need to bother them with somthing else) These people are terrable, they dont alow another view, and they don't let others speak. What should be done about this."


Yeah, no kidding. All the support boards for programs are heavily censored, thank goodness for Fornits!
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« Reply #136 on: June 24, 2005, 01:23:00 PM »
What can and should be done about the censorship on the Program-Pusher forums is talking about them here.

It's important to keep reminding parents, even and especially the Program-Pusher parents that come here, that those censored "support" forums are there to further enable them to lie to themselves that they're doing the right thing, and to convince themselves that they're not being conned.

If the Program is so great, why are they so afraid of those of us who disapprove of it?

If the Program is so great, and what they're doing is so right, why do they have to hide behind great walls of censorship to keep from hearing people who disagree with them?

If they're so concerned about babying their own "emotionally fragile" state, that should be their first clue that what they're really doing is protecting *themselves* from the little voices of conscience and common sense that say, "You're doing wrong," and "You're being conned by a pack of flakes who want your money."

What we do about censored forums is what we do about censored newspapers or censored radio broadcasts or censored anything---we keep talking, and keep saying what they don't want to hear, and keep putting what they don't want to hear right in front of them where they have to see it.

In this case, people in the program-critic community are doing a great job of keeping up the drum beat in the newspapers.  Love the gay rights people who have gotten the newsies on the story about that pink triangle concentration camp in Tennessee.

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« Reply #137 on: June 24, 2005, 01:37:00 PM »
The program-pushers will tell you it does no good to post on Fornits--because they really wish you'd stop.

Don't believe them.  It does a world of good to post here.

Reporters researching stories on these places read Fornits.  Even if they can't use a particular one of us for a source for a particular story, what you say here contributes to their background reading and makes a difference.

Which, of course, is another reason the program-pushers *really* wish we'd shut up. :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:

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« Reply #138 on: June 24, 2005, 03:22:00 PM »
They troll us, I troll them, I am currently on the boards at this site, under the same name, join me wont you? Lets take the fight to their boards.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-24 12:22 ]
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #139 on: June 24, 2005, 03:41:00 PM »
Its a waste of time, they will just delete your posts.
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« Reply #140 on: June 24, 2005, 03:43:00 PM »
Oh come on, you have to be more subversive than that. Dont just go on and flame them, you have to break them down, for everything they offer up have somthing bad about it, for everything they want to do say somthing that makes them think more, eventually they will have no options for schools. You have to be subversive man.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #141 on: June 24, 2005, 03:46:00 PM »
Well, good luck undermining the entire site...
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« Reply #142 on: June 24, 2005, 03:46:00 PM »
Not as hard as you would think.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2005, 07:29:00 PM »
Did they delete you over there OVerlord?
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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2005, 07:30:00 PM »
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Welcome back. Your son sounds SO much like mine, so you might want to do a search on my old posts. Our son was taken by escorts to wilderness on May 30, 2003. He spent 9 weeks in wilderness- yes, they do an excellent job of recommending the "next step". Our son then went to a TBS, where he was angry and resistant. He, too, is a bright kid who was throwing his future away before we took the steps we took. Plus, our lives were unbearable with him home. We were in constant fear for his safety. Also, drugs and alcohol were not the core problem. As you said, it was defiance, anger, skipping school, unhealthy relationships.....
If I were you I would consider an immediate wilderness placement. You can then take a deep breath and let the experts work with him for awhile. Feel free to send me a message or email for more information. Oh- our son has been out of his program for 14 months now and is doing great. Karen
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« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2005, 07:31:00 PM »
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Karen's recommendation of a good wilderness program is a sound one. There are some programs that would prove effective, after which another placement is probably in order.

In general, wilderness programs will suggest at least the kind of further placement they recommend. Some may recommend a program affiliated with the same parent company, but you're not bound by it.

If you know your son is comsuming weed and beer, you should assume he is using more drugs

Clearly, you do have time to do something effective for your son - whether he wishes to cooperate or not. You'll find good support for doing so right here.

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« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2005, 08:31:00 PM »
Does Mrs. D.VA still post at struggling teens?

If I recall correctly, she is a PURE parent volunteer who used to live in VA but moved to Florida?
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« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2005, 11:14:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-22 17:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Does Mrs. D.VA still post at struggling teens?



If I recall correctly, she is a PURE parent volunteer who used to live in VA but moved to Florida?



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What is PURE?
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« Reply #148 on: July 23, 2005, 12:28:00 AM »
PURE is a racket.. I mean REFERRAL AGENCY made by Mrs "sue" Scheff.

Basically, her girl was abused at WWASPS, so she pulled her out, and started a referral business to "good programs"...

However, theyre just as abusive as a WWASPS program, and she makes 200K~ year (see the WWASPS vs PURE transcripts) getting kickbacks from the programs she referrs to.

Basically, shes using her daughter's torture at the hands of wwasps to deliver more kids into the hands of.. other programs!  

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #149 on: July 23, 2005, 02:01:00 AM »
here's what ive learned in this thread:

ALL programs are abusive

ALL parents who send their kids away are failures.

ALL parents who send their kids away are doing so as a cop out

ALL children are misunderstood little angels who would do just fine if left to their own devices.

NO child needs to be at a TBS

..  so now that everyone loves me...
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also...

ALL posters of this forum have issues with their folks they dont have the stones to deal with.  

The ones that do let a little info slip about themselves seem to show they are in thier early 20's still living with mom and dad

Theyre actually the ones with the crappy parents, the ones who got sent away so their parents wouldnt have to raise them.

Right now they pick fights with other people's folks because if they fight with their own they might cut off their internet and stop washing their socks.

Everyone here knows all about all, to the extent that they can read a line or two from a parents post on ANOTHER forum and deduce everything about the parent's failings.

i feel like ive entered a universe of lost parents and bratty 20 year olds vicariously confronting their issues with mom and dad by slamming other parent.

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sure, a lot of the parents who sent their kids away could have avoided doing so when the brat was young enough to mold, now hes older, bigger, got his own friends, and scary, so they ship his ass somewhere and show them whos really in charge.  i say more power to them.  if it doesnt kill the kid it will make him stronger.

fuck the coddled bratty kids in this country who get the world on a platter.

how can we have 160 posts on this without once mentioning the major problem a lot of these kids have.  their loser friends with equally shitty home lives got more influence on a kid than loving well-intentioned parents.

you all need to get passed your issues with mom and dad.  accept that they sucked as parents.  maybe you didnt deserve to be in a boarding school but some kids do.
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