oh also, about the cost of PV
my parents paid none of it
the insurance company paid for everything!!
i know if they had to pay that much to put me there,
there is no way i would have gone.
so anyway you know those really high insurance rates,
blame PV
most everyone was there on insurance or a ward of the state
there is a new Wikipedia post about PV
it kind of annoys me!
it makes the kids in there all sound like delinquents
or cop killers, like that one boy,
i hate that story
it is just so sad for everyone
it's amazing really if you think about it that more stuff like that doesn't happen out of PV
i think it doesn't because most of the kids they take
really don't have mental problems,
nobody i was in with had anything worse then chemical depression
they don't want anyone too hard to handle
everyone i was in with was totally sane, with a couple with chemical depression
I hold PV very responsible for the death of that cop and for the ruined life of that boy.
it is just such a horrific case
but it is the only one like that i know of?
it seems unfair to say my 15 year old cabin mate foster kid, who was a good student played on the basketball team, and was put in PV because she go in a fight with some bully at her group home?
or the girl who was in because she told her family her grandfather had molested her,
or the one who was in because her cousins had,
or the anorexic pianist, or the 13 year old girl who was in because her father had been shot and nothing else, or the 13 year old who’s parents were in a custody battle and she had written a bunch of weird gothic poetry and died her hair black, or the girl who ate ten asprin because she was angry about something
or the one in for telling her parents she was gay
it seems unfair to have everyone painted as a dangerous cop killer,
none of these kids were delinquents or cop killers?
or dangerous or even drug users
last time i checked being molested wasn't a sign of insanity,
or being in foster care because your parents are drug users
or getting into trouble with a boy, this is all just reflective of some insane born again shame filled abusive application of reality and sex that there should be laws against, especially considering that as a women there are a lot of sexual predators
it really is the oldest story in the book,
And the whole statutory rape thing,
like with the poor girl who's cousins had been molesting her since she was 5 and she told her aunt and she threw her out,
and a neighbor took her in for a week till she ran home after he molested her.
she was 15,
statutory rape laws were in general completely ignored in PV,
forget in general,
They were just ignored!!!
i remember that the cousins, a police report had been filed about but i don't think much was happening with it,
the aunt, her guardian had put her in PV and the state was paying.
but what about the neighbor, he was an adult.
most of the foster kids, actually i think almost all of them, were in PV for running away from abusive families, or group homes
and considering the stories and the lice coming from the group homes, it was hard to blame them
a lot of them were semi in foster care, because mom or dad would sober up once in a while, so they were shuttled back and forth anyway
the stigma out of a place like PV is one of the worst things about it and one of the most unfounded.
I have found, out of any bunch there are always a few!
this applies to college professors and priests too!
if you open a place for troubled youth, foster kids and kids with mood disorders, like depression and then torture them beyond the Geneva convention,
your going to get one of two that can't handle it
chemical depression is no joke
those poor people feel horrible all the time
they have a medical problem
i've known people with it, as have all PV survivors, and most people
chemical depressive people can't get out of bed in the morning and feel horrible because of a chemical imbalance
the way PV treats teens is just so bad
it's a little like soldiers with PTS i think?
it's such a mess, PV creates
there is another post about a girl who died out of PV of a drug overdose
her overdose sounded a lot like suicide
Zen you said the suicide rate was pretty high out of PV?
i'm sure the attempted misery rate is pretty high too.
it's just so sad to think of all the suffering PV causes
you really can't take abuse victims and kids with chemical depression and such and then torture them and have it turn out well
it's a testament to how sane most of the kids are that they pull through it all, they certainly have been given more to deal with then is right,
i think there was one or two kids at my college over the last few years who shot some one,
i know one guy did in a drunken brawl
I guess what I'm saying is considering that PV TORTURES people,
many of whom who have already been abused very badly,
one out of a thousand is pretty reasonable odds as far as that boy goes.
i think it's telling how these "dangerous" or "crazy" teens are given mauls and axes and then tortured 24 7 and yet we have no instances of any one swinging one?
instead the worst they do usually is come out or PV, start using drugs, even if they had not before.
i had smoked some pot and drank before PV nothing else and many of the girls had done no drugs at all.
and then they "accidentally" quietly overdose at nineteen or twenty
i think this is a lot more reflective of how PV survivors deal,
by themselves, with no support and nothing but blame and shame and probably more abuse and prejudice heaped on them,
with the TORTURE they endured at PV and else where.
How do you think Abigail feels about herself? really
I really hate the prejudice that these kids face after having been tortured
To add insult to injury to injury and insult
They do not disserve it and it is an evil farce and also a frightening in/ reason that might give more sadistic creeps in the industry a way to torture them even more later.
Or even a way PV could abuse them again, by saying they are dangerous.
That’s why I would always caution people on this site to be careful they say nothing that could even be construed as they are a danger to themselves.
How horrible is that!!!! Some poor teen out of PV can’t even talk about being depressed about it too honestly
they can't even talk about it to older survivors who have been through being out and still young and in pain and could help them with it.
these poor kids can't even get the help they need because then the pigs can come and take them away?
like I said some of the kids in there were in for writing gothic poetry about death and saying they were feeling sad!!
the people involved in the running and profiting from places like PV are horrific abusers and they should be viewed as very dangerous
Not the victims of the abuse, who 99 % of the time are no threat to anyone.
It is not their fault they have been abused horribly and therefore are most likely going to have some side effects.
We don’t act like rape victims are dangerous but they are certainly in a position where they need support, and most kids out of PV either are actual rape victims or comparable psychologically because of what PV has done to them.
Of course being out of PV is a little like being a rape victim under the Taliban, where people stone you for it,
PV really needs to be shut down!
