Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Will someone who went to Hyde please contact me right away
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-11 05:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The Person Who Wrote About Performing Arts;
You are speaking about the students, and my question was about students and parents. What is a parent getting out of performing on stage when in fact they love to do it?
The answer is, it is doing nothing for the parent who enjoys it and humiliating the hell out of the other parent who dreads it!"
--- End quote ---
The performing arts discussion was started by a student about a student experience. When this is all anonymous with no names, its easy to get confused about which post responds to which, but the jist of my response was that I find it hard to believe any student gets through the gates without knowing they will be doing performing arts. Its on the website, and its part of their daily discussion with everyone, as its integral to their system, as is mandatory participation in sports.
I see some real value in having parents taste what their children are doing, but don't need to debate that.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-11 07:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-10 22:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Anybody here notice how many anti-Hyde people here lie about pretending they just want to get something off their chest when really they are here to try and prevent other students from going to Hyde? Their sarcasm, condescension and hypocracy are a perfect example of why Hyde-failures don't live in the real world.
Or were you just trying to bait me Lars?"
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Buddy, you're a real class act. Just a true piece of shit to accuse someone of lying who has been absolutely truthful about his own painful experiences AND his sincere desire to see that other parents don't put their kids through hell. Go back to Bath - you truly belong there.
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Lars, you accuesed me of baiting people when you just wanted to get something off your chest. I have no issue with you getting stuff off your chest, but since I loved Hyde, I will take issue with your attempts to sway parents, and to provide a contrary opinion. You in turn have responded with viturperative name calling and judgements. (Something I am probably guily of as well.)
I would rather we just debate the issues, but you made a specific post NOT ABOUT your experience but about me and the pro-Hyde people. If you don't like my response, that's your problem, but I will do my best to honestly represent the good and bad about Hyde and try my best (not always possible) to not make this personal.
That said, when people like Tom Allan who experience Hyde for six months and ran away three times become one of the dominant posters here, along with Antigen, then I will question all of you. I don't know your facts, but I do know Tommy left long before he had the chance to get it....a small number leave Hyde like Tommy, and his posts are less than authorative.
Lars:
--- Quote ---Lars, you accuesed me of baiting people when you just wanted to get something off your chest. I have no issue with you getting stuff off your chest, but since I loved Hyde, I will take issue with your attempts to sway parents, and to provide a contrary opinion. You in turn have responded with viturperative name calling and judgements. (Something I am probably guily of as well.)
I would rather we just debate the issues, but you made a specific post NOT ABOUT your experience but about me and the pro-Hyde people. If you don't like my response, that's your problem, but I will do my best to honestly represent the good and bad about Hyde and try my best (not always possible) to not make this personal.
That said, when people like Tom Allan who experience Hyde for six months and ran away three times become one of the dominant posters here, along with Antigen, then I will question all of you. I don't know your facts, but I do know Tommy left long before he had the chance to get it....a small number leave Hyde like Tommy, and his posts are less than authorative."
--- End quote ---
People like myself get angry whem you bait us (and you do, whether you realize it or not. It's a well known Hyde technique.) because we had a truly painful experience - something you just don't seem to understand. Maybe you don't mean it that way, but it comes across as malicious. I spent three years there and graduated with a diploma. I went through it all - 2/4, "auditions, "Family Learning Centers," "attitude trips," wrestling, getting reamed out for not snitching on others, sleep deprivation, and many other practices that I've becomed convinced over time (if I wasn't convinced at the time I endured them) are emotionally harmful.
If you loved it, wonderful for you. I know some kids & their families who thought it was a lifesaver. But for many, the "round peg in square hole" cliche sums it up very well. And I believe beyond any doubt that many of their practices and techniques are abusive, demeaning, and, in the case of their "seminars," dangerous theraputic malpractice.
I hated it everyday I was there, even after I learned to play their games and mouth their catchphrases. I just remember going off to college and not being able to stop smiling as I strolled around campus, even when I'd had nightmares about being back at Hyde and being told that I had to spend yet another year there. I remember getting my first college report card and seeing that I'd made the dean's list. No "lacks effort," or "needs to be more of leader," just the letter "A." I remember standing in the warm Arizona sunshine and feeling human again.
And that's why I won't set foot on the Hyde campus ever again. Why my charitable donations go elsewhere. Why I'd like to warn prospective parents about the place.
That's it - all the bile I needed to spill, all the warning I can give. If any prospective students or parents on this board want to know about anything I went through, just ask. I'll peruse these boards from time to time. Until then....
Lars:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-11 14:14:00, Lars wrote:
Lars, you accuesed me of baiting people when you just wanted to get something off your chest. I have no issue with you getting stuff off your chest, but since I loved Hyde, I will take issue with your attempts to sway parents, and to provide a contrary opinion. You in turn have responded with viturperative name calling and judgements. (Something I am probably guily of as well.)
I would rather we just debate the issues, but you made a specific post NOT ABOUT your experience but about me and the pro-Hyde people. If you don't like my response, that's your problem, but I will do my best to honestly represent the good and bad about Hyde and try my best (not always possible) to not make this personal.
That said, when people like Tom Allan who experience Hyde for six months and ran away three times become one of the dominant posters here, along with Antigen, then I will question all of you. I don't know your facts, but I do know Tommy left long before he had the chance to get it....a small number leave Hyde like Tommy, and his posts are less than authorative."
--- End quote ---
People like myself get angry whem you bait us (and you do, whether you realize it or not. It's a well known Hyde technique.) because we had a truly painful experience - something you just don't seem to understand. Maybe you don't mean it that way, but it comes across as malicious. I spent three years there and graduated with a diploma. I went through it all - 2/4, "auditions, "Family Learning Centers," "attitude trips," wrestling, getting reamed out for not snitching on others, sleep deprivation, and many other practices that I've become convinced over time (if I wasn't convinced at the time I endured them) are emotionally harmful.
If you loved it, wonderful for you. I know some kids & their families who thought it was a lifesaver. But for many, the "round peg in square hole" cliche sums it up very well. And I believe beyond any doubt that many of their practices and techniques are abusive, demeaning, and, in the case of their "seminars," dangerous theraputic malpractice.
I hated it everyday I was there, even after I learned to play their games and mouth their catchphrases. I just remember going off to college and not being able to stop smiling as I strolled around campus, even when I'd had nightmares about being back at Hyde and being told that I had to spend yet another year there. I remember getting my first college report card and seeing that I'd made the dean's list. No "lacks effort," or "needs to be more of leader," just the letter "A." I remember standing in the warm Arizona sunshine and feeling human again.
And that's why I won't set foot on the Hyde campus ever again. Why my charitable donations go elsewhere. Why I'd like to warn prospective parents about the place.
That's it - all the bile I needed to spill, all the warning I can give. If any prospective students or parents on this board want to know about anything I went through, just ask. I'll peruse these boards from time to time. Until then....
Anonymous:
Thank you Lars. That was a very thoughtful comment. Three years is a seriously long time for things to suck as bad as they sound in your post.
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