IZZY: Questions...WHY?

[Sandy]

Why do you release personal info about others? Do you NOT know the MEANING of "confidentiality"?

Why do you take credit for things you have not done?

Why do you attack parents/kids that have already been hurt and defend those who are responsible?

Why do you refer (or point in their direction, whatever you want to call it) to people/places that will further cause harm?

Why do you contact people that you previously were against and release other people's private info to them? Who the hell gave you that right?

How do you live with yourself?

I could go on and on but I won't, unless you answer some of these....

And then to get on Fornits and post as Guest and several other names, that's just a total disgrace and shows that you, yourself, know that you are not creditable, on your own account.

[Guest]

These are good questions, which Izzy probably will not answer.

Why does Izzy copy and use other's work?

It appears obvious that Izzy's In Memory of the Children was taken/copied from Barbe Stamp's "HOLY THE CHILDREN" on her true advocacy website Teen Advocates U.S.A.

It appears obvious that Izzy's Watchlist is taken/copied from Shelby Earnshaw's ISAC Watchlist.

Some have asked , "hasn't Isabelle ever had an orignial thought of her own?"

The Whitmore Academy blogs are a supreme example of Izzy attacking parents and their children; while she defends those responsible for their misery and victimization. Especially when the owner accepted a plea bargain in the criminal case against her.

People have fallen victim to Izzy's lack of confidentiality; and she claims too have a background in the legal field and calls herself a "journalist," two fields that require confidentiality.

Izzy has the right to refer children to programs; but she needs to be honest about her "work" and not post a disclaimer that states she DOES NOT REFER CHILDREN TO PROGRAMS. That is dishonest, and misleading.

No person should make claims about their qualifications, education, or credentials that are not valid or truthful. This is just wrong. and can gain a level of trust that is not warranted.

Why?
Who knows?

[Guest]

One of these fine days - the identity of the CAICA Board of Directors may be revealed, if there is one, because I have a feeling Isabelle Zehnder can not continue to side-step (avoid) answering the questions posed to her about the lack of transparency surrounding CAICA.

Why the secrecy?

What is the purpose of her Board of Directors?

Why did a member of the BoD post on Fornits in support of Zehnder but fail to disclose their identity? Why wear a guest tag if their purpose in posting was to address issues pursuant to the organization they are associated with as a Board Member?

How can Isabelle call herself PRESIDENT of an organization that claims to have a Board of Directors, but does not disclose their identity nor their qualifications to sit on this board?

Also, check out this website:

http://www.therosemooreshow.com

How many ways does Isabelle Zehnder use this website to promote her two alter-egos CAICA and POSITIVE FAMILY SOLUTIONS?

Comments anyone?

[Guest]

The poster "Not Buying It" claimed to be a CAICA Board Member in one post directed to Sandy.
But one of the parents that Izzy recruited to post for her, says that Izzy is actually the poster, "Not Buying It."
So, who knows?

[Guest]

Anybody happen to notice this at the bottom of Rose's page...?

Website designed by Isabelle Zehnder 2007

[psy]

Anybody happen to notice this at the bottom of Rose's page...?

Website designed by Isabelle Zehnder 2007

Yes. I noticed that. I wonder if Rose knows she has this website, and if she does, I wonder if she knows what Izzy is up to.

[Sandy]

Anybody happen to notice this at the bottom of Rose's page...?

Website designed by Isabelle Zehnder 2007

Yes. I noticed that. I wonder if Rose knows she has this website, and if she does, I wonder if she knows what Izzy is up to.

I'm pretty sure that Rose Moore knows about the website. Isabelle has been on her radio show twice that I know of. According to Isabelle, Rose wanted her to go into business with her. In a sort of "referral" thing with Isabelle's coaching business. Rose wanted a cut on anyone she referred to her. Isabelle claimed she didn't want to do this because the additional fee was going to be tacked on up front and the people would not be aware of it. Why would she have a problem with disclosure when she doesn't do it herself?

Guess I'd better specify the above was told to me in a phone call by Isabelle and I have nothing in writing to that effect so it's just hearsay and my opinion........ ::bigsmilebounce::

[psy]

Anybody happen to notice this at the bottom of Rose's page...?

Website designed by Isabelle Zehnder 2007

Yes. I noticed that. I wonder if Rose knows she has this website, and if she does, I wonder if she knows what Izzy is up to.

I'm pretty sure that Rose Moore knows about the website. Isabelle has been on her radio show twice that I know of. According to Isabelle, Rose wanted her to go into business with her. In a sort of "referral" thing with Isabelle's coaching business. Rose wanted a cut on anyone she referred to her. Isabelle claimed she didn't want to do this because the additional fee was going to be tacked on up front and the people would not be aware of it. Why would she have a problem with disclosure when she doesn't do it herself?

Guess I'd better specify the above was told to me in a phone call by Isabelle and I have nothing in writing to that effect so it's just hearsay and my opinion........ ::bigsmilebounce::

She told the same thing to me. Does the figure 3500 sound right?

[Sandy]

It was either $3,500 or $2,500. I remember that Isabelle couldn't subtract correctly and I corrected her and told her that Rose would be getting $700 off the top on a referral. I thought it sounded like a scam.

[Guest]

Sheesh! What is wrong with people in this industry? Haven't they ever heard of professionalism? A Board of Directors that can't be revealed to the public? WHY? That is the $64,000 question IMO.

[Guest]

For Izzy's "coaching fees" She quoted:
$2,500 for 3 months.
One hour per week by phone with the parent.
One hour per week by phone with the child.

12 weeks X 2 hours per week = 24 hours of "coaching"

$2,500 divided by 24 hours = $104.l7 per hour.

That's a LOT OF MONEY for "coaching by phone" IMO

A family could hire a licensed professional theapist for this amount of money. Why would a family choose "telephone coaching?"

[Sandy]

So, if Isabelle is quoting the $2,500 fee, does that mean that Rose Moore is getting the $700 referral fee for doing nothing but providing a phone number? Wonder if Rose's radio listeners know about this.......

[Guest]

How many out there have ever talked with Izzy on the phone?
That woman can not shut up! Any parents/kids being "coached" will probably be paying to hear Izzy run her mouth; because they probably won't get a chance to talk themselves.
Wasn't it buzzkill who reported about Izzy running up a survivor's cell phone bill into the hundreds of dollars, and then Izzy refused to pay the bill?

[psy]

So, if Isabelle is quoting the $2,500 fee, does that mean that Rose Moore is getting the $700 referral fee for doing nothing but providing a phone number? Wonder if Rose's radio listeners know about this.......

Isabelle claimed that was the case and told me it was unethical and she refused. Dunno what she told you. I was taking notes. She did mention 700$ off the top.

[Guest]

Who regulates "ethics" in the COACHING BUSINESS? Where is it written that it is unethical to hand out referral fees in the COACHING industry?