Izzy gets parent to post on Fornits for her

[psy]

Isabelle,
You should know who this parent is by now. She is the parent you referred to "Fnuts" and was posting as several different people. She has since discovered what you were up to and contacted me. Her only concern with me posting this information is that you might reveal the identity of her minor son (as you did with Sandy).

Although there would obviously be legal repercussions for such a stupid action, it would be nothing compared to the shit-storm I wound personally bring down on your fat ass. You should have figured out by now that I am NOT bluffing. I have plenty more information. As I said before. It's not "which parent" i've been talking to that you should be worried about, it's "how many".

You know what I told you to do. I suggest you do it. You will never again be an "advocate". Perhaps if you had been honest with me, and had given me some decent information, things might have been different. You ruined the last chance you had. Now you will burn with sue.

Psy

This was a long and drawn out one when she was trying to convince me you were evil. I am still trying to find stuff.

Please don't get offended, this was before I realized what was going on, and if you notice, in some of my responses, I was starting to get suspicious. Take it for what it was worth at the time she had me bamboozled, and I didn't know about all this crap between the companies. She was trying to convince me that Joyce Harris was trying to ruin her career, and you were too because of the lawsuit and the sudweeks, who she still defends. She is very good at convincing people she's great, sort of like the programs she still refers to.


From me

"That's what I am saying, they are their own worse enemy. They are giving publicity, good or bad, and like I said, most reasonable people can make their own informed decision.

Hey, the lawfirm contacted me today. I am going to call them back, but ______ will be 18 in about 45 days, and I am thinking that he should join this lawfirm, not me, since he was the one abuse, and basically that's really who they want involved.

Anyway, I will keep my eyes on Fnuts. Meanwhile, it's kind of fun trying to spoof them. Someone thinks they have my number, but ha ha.

We'll see. Hugs,
----- Original Message ----
From: Isabelle Zehnder izehnder@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:57:34 PM
Subject: Re: Catching the fisherman

(to me) ______, if I only knew. The fact of the matter is they probably have nothing and it's probably to throw us off balance. Lots of good things are happening with CAICA and for Sue. They know this and wish they could stop it. They are sick human beings because if they only knew what we do, we help kids every single day. We keep them out of abusive programs and when there's not other choice Sue helps find safe alternatives. Really, there's not much else we can do but keep going, keep focused on our work, and not allow them to undo us. They are trying.

They destroyed the Sudweeks and I'm not going to let them do it to me. Their biggest mistake is they didn't fight back soon enough. They are very kind people and did not have the heart to go after the people who were attacking them. It cost them literally everything. They helped hundreds of kids over the years. I was reading through a bunch of stuff today that I found from kids who were there, their lawyer, and others. All praising how wonderful these people were and how much good they did for them.

God only knows what it would take for these idiots to stop it. The only thing I can think of is to not feed them. Their little website is so pathetic and when people get on it they realize it's full of crap. You can't imagine the things I've heard about it from media to lawyers to parents and to survivors - they're all disgusted by it.

So for all they can say that they are saving people, they need to think again. There is only a handful of people who regularly post on there, you can see that. I remember when they had something on there that said "Who's online" - we'd click on it and at most there were 12-15 or so people on there, sometimes 5. So out of the entire population of the world, that's not much. CAICA is now getting about 10,000 hits a day.


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Isabelle Zehnder
Tel: (360) 369-6547
Cell: (360) 903-3951
Fax: (484) 991-1828
E-mail: izehnder@comcast.net

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(from me)>
What's all this crap that he all of a sudden wants all the posts on the thread only now? And something about he can't say anything now, but the crap is gonna hit the fan, and you guys will be out of business by Dec.?

----- Original Message ----
From: Isabelle Zehnder
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:25:48 PM
Subject: Re: Catching the fisherman

That about sums it up - they're in direct competition with themselves. If you go back to very old posts you will see they've done this to others. Anytime a person is not aligned with their way of thinking they are wrong in their eyes and they want the world to know - no matter who they hurt. Psy said it in his e-mail that it's not me they're after, it's Sue.

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Isabelle Zehnder
Tel: (360) 369-6547
Cell: (360) 903-3951
Fax: (484) 991-1828
E-mail: izehnder@comcast.net

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From: Me




Well, look at who you are dealing with i.e. A bunch of pissed off kids, a bunch of pissed of parents, me for one, but as WWASP, not all programs in general, definately Wilderness programs, as someone keeps harping about, and people who you may be in direct competition with as far as coaching, resources. This just blows my mind. Even if you did refer one program, or to a better program, like Sorensons, Red Rock, which I haven't found one bad thing about, so what. But maybe you are in direct competition with those hitters. All I know is someone would not be spending this much effort if it wasn't mean't to put you out of business to benefit them. Like I said before, this all comes down to money, at least that's my take. What they are not getting is, even if it's bad information, incorrect information, they are still giving you the floor. It's almost like they are in direct competition with themselves.

----- Original Message ----
From: Isabelle Zehnder
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:37:13 PM
Subject: Re: Catching the fisherman

It could be any of them. I know one thing about these people. The more positive you post about me or Sue the more threads they will create. That's the way they have worked for years. I haven't done anything to anyone. Their anger is mis-directed. I answered a call and did what I was asked. I provide alternatives for a desparate family member, so I thought. They've twisted it and turned it to their satisfaction, it was completely a set up.

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Isabelle Zehnder
Tel: (360) 369-6547
Cell: (360) 903-3951
Fax: (484) 991-1828
E-mail: izehnder@comcast.net

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From: me
sorry, I am posting and emailing between running in and out all day. Maybe we can catch up tonight. I thought those threads were done. Someone really hates you guys, and keeps bringing those old threads back to the top under GUEST. I know it's not Psy, because he even said in one of his threads to put it over there and to stop, where the Auntie thread is. It's gotta be someone else, maybe someone whose in competition with you, against you, that you might have pissed off? Know anyone like that? Besides the people at WWASP, who could also be posting as GUEST.

[Guest]

They destroyed the Sudweeks and I'm not going to let them do it to me. Their biggest mistake is they didn't fight back soon enough. They are very kind people and did not have the heart to go after the people who were attacking them. It cost them literally everything. They helped hundreds of kids over the years. I was reading through a bunch of stuff today that I found from kids who were there, their lawyer, and others. All praising how wonderful these people were and how much good they did for them.

God only knows what it would take for these idiots to stop it. The only thing I can think of is to not feed them. Their little website is so pathetic and when people get on it they realize it's full of crap. You can't imagine the things I've heard about it from media to lawyers to parents and to survivors - they're all disgusted by it.

So for all they can say that they are saving people, they need to think again. There is only a handful of people who regularly post on there, you can see that. I remember when they had something on there that said "Who's online" - we'd click on it and at most there were 12-15 or so people on there, sometimes 5. So out of the entire population of the world, that's not much. CAICA is now getting about 10,000 hits a day.

FAT WHORE!

[Guest]

They destroyed the Sudweeks and I'm not going to let them do it to me. Their biggest mistake is they didn't fight back soon enough. They are very kind people and did not have the heart to go after the people who were attacking them. It cost them literally everything. They helped hundreds of kids over the years. I was reading through a bunch of stuff today that I found from kids who were there, their lawyer, and others. All praising how wonderful these people were and how much good they did for them.

OMG - and Izzy just deleted her Whitmore blog a few days after writing this?

You are nothing but a stinking, big ass liar, Isabelle Zehnder!!!!

Your credibility is below ZERO.



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[Guest]

What a joke Isabelle is.

10,000 hits a day?

And how much did she have in her Chip In fundraiser?

A whopping $100.00.

Yep, that's right folks. Two people out of 10,000 hits a day made a donation of $50.00.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Joyce Harris]

Isbelle Zehnder,

What the hell are you talking about?

I don't even know you, much less what kind of CAREER you have that could be RUINED !!!

You have taken it upon yourself to write blogs about me and my family---and have accused me of things that I won't even mention here; and take up people's time with.

You are a liar---You lied about me in your blogs; and you should well, know that by now.
You dare call yourself an advocate of children; when you dare write a blog and protect; and praise the very facility where my child was abused?

Now, you can yell lawyer to the top of your lungs.
As the parent Sandy has already posted: BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

I have done nothing wrong.
Nor has any other parent that you have come in contact with that I am aware of.

Joyce Harris

[Guest]

OMG - and Izzy just deleted her Whitmore blog a few days after writing this?

No, weeks before, the dates are on the original post by Psy.

[Guest]

Clarification please?

When did Izzy write the email above praising the Sudweeks?

When did she delete her blog defending the Sudweeks?

It is my understanding the Whitmore blog was deleted after Izzy spoke to Psy last week?

T.I.A.

[Guest]

Izzy

You were right. I should have stopped posting on Fornuts like you suggested I do, but I couldn't, the more I read, the more I realized you were crazy.

After having gone through all that shit with me and my family at TB, how could you then turn around and lie to me about the Sudweeks and then defend them. They are terrible people. Do you read anything? You're insane to have aligned yourself with these people and you should be ashamed of yourself.

You could have really done something in this industry, that you say you set out to do, but instead, you took the easy road, which is probably where most of you end up in the end. There's no money in real advocacy is there?

I thought you were a pretty decent person, and yes, you had me convinced that Fornuts were a bunch of nuts and out to get you for no reason. But they have every reason.

And Sue Scheff refers to WWASP run programs. And you freakin' know it. Are you so desperate for friends that you needed to align yourself with this woman, knowin what these institutions do. And by the way, I just found out that Roger L, runs a referral site that refers Sorensons. What do you have to say about that?

Why couldn't you tell the truth? You had every opportunity and you didn't. You could have made good on yourself, and yet you chose to play games, picking around for information, and trying deperatly to cover your own ass, probably only temporarily.

I'd take Psy's suggestion before it's too late for you.

I sort of feel some sympathy for you, but then again, you did it to yourself. You got caught in your own trap, and now you're gonna have to chew your own foot off to get out.

With my regrets.