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Compliance is not character. Weakness is not strength. Regression is not growth. Tough love leads to tough hate. Time for some straight talk about the Troubled Parent Industry.

This is an uncensored, unmoderated forum where all viewpoints are both welcome and fair game for debate. It's a snap-shot of the Teen Help industry, and there's nothing inspiring or heart-warming about it. It's pretty damned ugly. Enter at your own risk.

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Postby psy » 06 Jun 2007, 03:26

\"Guest\" wrote:This forum and others are full of these people ready to exploit anyone gullible enough to think they care about them, and not just the gory details of their story.. for whatever agenda it might be.


Izzy.. or is it sue?

The assumption that disgruntled former program kids will do the dirty work of people with unknown agendas is just plain gross...


I totally agree.

Please underestimate me. Label me a "disgruntled former program kid". Please assume I am lead by the nose by those who take advantage of me. Please assume I am naive. Please assume I am powerless. Please try and take advantage of my gullability.

I will enjoy destroying you.
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 04:07

I called her.

Went something like this,

Sue: Hello? (tired sounding likes he was in bed)
Me: Hi, um, is this Sue Scheff?
Sue: Yes, how can I help you ma'am?
Me: I am calling on behalf of my daughter...
Sue: Oh yes that's right, Izzy told me about you. We have a place just right for her.
Me: Oh that's great Sue, you are so wonderful...
Sue: I know. I just want to help other parents like me, I have a daughter too.
Me: That is why I trust you so much!
Sue: You are so kind, you will really enjoy your new daughter once she is fixed.
Me: I can't wait. You are the shit Sue. I want to ask you something personal, is that okay?
Sue: Sure... I guess...
Me: Do you wear granny panties or a more sleek and sexy bikini type underwear?
Sue: What? I have never! How dare you ask such a thing!
Me: Touch your nipple and tell me if it's hard.

Click.

Oh well, always tomorrow night....
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Postby psy » 06 Jun 2007, 04:31

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 04:38

Now I am more confused than ever, Isabelle. (sarcasm intended)

What happened to the so-called report you were writing for Congressman Miller? At least this was your claim when you first called me last year.

What is your title exactly?? How many hats are you wearing these days? Child Advocate, Parent Consultant, Family Coach, Referral Agent, Founder of an "invisible" Association?

It seems like contradiction is in your blood. I spotted this same contradiction the first time I visited the not so P.U.R.E. website. I asked Sue three legitimate questions that I felt deserved an answer. It's called FULL DISCLOSURE. Instead, all I got was "people don't understand me."

ONE of my questions to Sue Scheff (PURE) was:

"Are you a Child Advocate, or a Referral Agency? I don't feel a "TRUE" Child Advocate can be both.

Isabelle, I feel that you and Sue are giving parents a "false" sense of security while you both continue to proclaim the abuses in this dysfunctional industry to the world, (WWASP, WWASP, WWASP, only), while on the other hand, you are both referring desperate parents to an unregulated, out-of-control, "troubled industry."

You can't have it both ways!

It's bad enough that we've had to fight this "troubled industry" over their long talked about controversy. Now we are up against the controversy amongst the "TRUE" Child Advocates and the "FALSE" Child Advocates.

How sad for the kids!

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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 05:12

So who owns or operates this Sunrise Adolescent Transport company?
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 05:19

\"Guest\" wrote:So who owns or operates this Sunrise Adolescent Transport company?


Are transporters licensed in Utah?
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Postby hanzomon4 » 06 Jun 2007, 05:25

Is anyone surprised? The number is the same number listed on the SUE site, which, of course, is of the devil.
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 05:35

What number?
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Postby hanzomon4 » 06 Jun 2007, 05:44

The number listed as Sue's direct home number in the email.
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 05:49

The person to contact re the programs is Sue at 954-349-7260. She is
aware of the situation so just let her know I sent you to her. I
normally don't give out her direct, home phone number but she said OK.

She has over 7 years experience helping families so I feel confident
she'll steer us in the right direction, if we need to go that direction.


On PURE website:

Local and International Callers please Call: 954-349-7260

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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 06:03

Oh brother - teen drinking = coaching?

What's next? teen sex? goth? rock and roll? listening to Space Cookies music?

Sorry, this just reminds me of the WWASPS "magical child" bullshit seminars. Not evidence-based treatment, in other words. Isabelle has no credentials in adolescent behavioral healthcare. :roll:

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Postby psy » 06 Jun 2007, 06:04

The escort's phone number reverse lookups to ST. GEORGE UTAH...

Oh now sue... You didn't.... Izzy... Shame on you... I am so utterly shocked beyond belief. I am sitting here ... wow. I'm just stunned you could even consider doing such a thing.
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Postby Guest » 06 Jun 2007, 06:07

Sunrise Adolescent Transport is in St. George? I am curious who owns this company? Anybody know?
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Postby psy » 06 Jun 2007, 06:31

\"Guest\" wrote:Oh brother - teen drinking = coaching?

What's next? teen sex? goth? rock and roll? listening to Space Cookies music?


Now don't forget friends how "Good Christian" (TM) Sue sent her own daughter to program to save her from that horrible Wicca cult. Why.. she might of just sprouted a broomstick and started casting spells on Poor Sue. We can't have that. Could you imagine a Poor Sue Voodoo doll. Her poor daughter needed to be taught the dangers of such things to Poor Sue. Why Poor Sue could have just burst into flames.. or her head could start spinning around... who knows .. maybe even stabbing herself with a crucifix in the... nevermind.. if you've seen the Uncut Exorist you know what I mean. ("I love you lord.... ") All "Good Christians" (TM) know that an ancient religion, predating Christianity, in which the one commandment is not to harm others... could only have come from the bowels of that bad bad place... maybe Fornits! How is she supposed to learn religious tolerance there? After all, it's full of nothing but people who failed to find the one true way of god handed down by the Holy Sudweeks... Holy Holy Holy... Worship the holy child abu... er... lovers! God how are they persecuted by the evil liberal governments in Canada, Mexico, and Utah... Lord let us lift up our hands in prayer for our Sue Sheff.. she is so holy.. so wonderful. so PURE.. speaking CACA to the masses. I loving love her... Oh.. Love Love.. I hope she loving ... loves... lovefully... in a wonderful ball of love... where she will .. love... for eternity in a pit of love with all her loving friends.

::ftard::

SOrry... sleep deprived here. lol. Last post I swear before i hit the sac.. as it is i'll get 6 hours. Summer school is wonderful.

Sorry, this just reminds me of the WWASPS "magical child" bullshit seminars.


REALLY? I see nothing of the sort? evidence? What evidence? It's evidence based.. isn't it. Trial and error is evidence right? That counts doesn't it?!?!
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