"Pile of Dead Kids"....owned.
The title of this thread is still a joke, because the discussion really isn't about efficacy, or whether it is or is not morally right to send your own children to isolation for years, or anything real. Anyone with a modicum of sense would have weighed the very real risks versus the illusory benefits, and GTFO'd long ago. But you can't have a discussion with irrationality. Doesn't work. In a very real sense they simply don't care about what makes sense or what's the best thing to do. They care about imposing what they already believe, what they were taught to believe, on what's going on in their lives; sanity comes second.
Jeesh, Awake empowered you with her last post. I beg to differ, this thread does at it's essence relate to a very important social inadequacy here. The inability for two separate opinions both with real value and passionate convictions to coexist in a mutually respective enviroment.
You see the same thing in Christian Scientist and other cults. Kid's entire fucking left lung fills up with pus while they pray instead of taking him to a doctor. Do they, once, say "Hey this isn't working I think he might need to go to a hospital?" If it crosses their minds they dismiss it as Satan's influence. They've been taught to pray, and so they will pray.
This is a grossly "out of context" example of the protestations and/or different analogies Whooter and others are presenting here.
Whooter gave himself away when he talked about what he could make himself believe. Because he's not really concerned with winning the argument in any conventional sense. He's concerned with quieting the phantoms in his own head, repeatedly trying to overwrite reality with his inculcated views of the way the world works, and has chosen Fornits as the place to do it. Which is why he'll keep posting until banned.
Ya know Pile, this smells more of a "projection" on your part, of a small insecurity, you just opened for us to see, "Your Latent Hostility".
Same way the programs work. They'll keep doing what they do until they run out of customers or get forcibly shut down permanently. Even the existing shutdowns just send them scurrying off to the next program. They simply don't know how to do anything else. One uncommon exception is Randall Hinton, but he brought the program home to his own three-year-old.
The bad ones do seem to do this. Your right.
Sooner or later Chuck Darwin will sort this all out- having the mental makeup to get involved in cults is swiftly becoming a huge reproductive disadvantage, particularly when they involve your existing children- but before then this'll just continue until it's made illegal as Washington State has done and a lot of other states have effectively done through regulation.
We can only hope this will happen sooner then later.
But attempting to have anything approaching a rational discussion with these people is a waste of time. There's just nothing you're going to get out of the argument but the same standard bullshit. Their own kids can even pay somebody to shoot them in the back of the head, blinding them permanently with the destruction of the occipital lobes, and it won't change their tune.
and there is are immature hostile Pile back to who we know. Pile you had me fooled, I thought your intellect would win out over your emotions....NOT. Your emotions still "own" you, sign of being inexperienced.
You can have a conversation with the people who don't share all your opinions. How else would this life work.
