Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.

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Postby psy » 08 Jun 2007, 03:41

Wrong address Bitch. But it's nice to know you keep 6 year old records around.

Should something happen to me. Who do you think people will blame? Back off.

Edit: I just received the same email in my old email box. Seems she thinks spy2k6 is me.

Edit: Full header:

From Isabelle Zehnder Thu Jun 7 16:45:09 2007
Return-Path:
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Smile. Jesus loves your fat ass.... actually.. he probably doesn't. nevermind.

Oh. and thanks for confirming the header of the first letter.
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Postby ZenAgent » 08 Jun 2007, 03:52

This is getting ridiculous. They're acting like gangster thugs. Psy, report her for cyber-stalking. This is fucked.
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Postby psy » 08 Jun 2007, 03:55

\"ZenAgent\" wrote:This is getting ridiculous. They're acting like gangster thugs. Psy, report her for cyber-stalking. This is fucked.


I don't believe in cyber-stalking legislation. It rubs my ethics the wrong way. She can say what she likes. It's her right. Plus. She is just proving how fucking crazy she is.
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Postby hanzomon4 » 08 Jun 2007, 04:11

:o

Psy's stick'in it to Izz

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Postby ZenAgent » 08 Jun 2007, 04:12

Crazy? I'd say tons of fun is going into meltdown mode. She's spinning like a top.
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Postby psy » 08 Jun 2007, 04:15

\"ZenAgent\" wrote:Crazy? I'd say tons of fun is going into meltdown mode. She's spinning like a top.


"you spin me right round baby right round"... lol.. and please... don't post that link.

Fitting metaphor i think though.
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Postby Guest » 08 Jun 2007, 04:26

You rock psy.::rocker::
Fuck that fat child referin' bitch.
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Postby Guest » 08 Jun 2007, 04:39

\"psy\" wrote:Izabelle Zehnder. You are FUCKED. This feels so good to type.

A friend of a friend of mine (with a deeper voice) called up Sunrise academy as a prospective parent claiming to have a kid who needed transportation to Cross Creek Manor (WWASP). I do have proof and It will be submitted to ISAC as soon as possible, thought the information on the identity of those who performed this call will remain confidential. As a blogger (in your own words Izzy) I am entitled to freedom of the press and confidentiality for my sources. Whether or not the court upholds that, I will not release the identities. As a part time journalist, I protect my sources, and my friends. I don't do dirt lists anymore.

Information about Sunrise academy:

Owner: Julie Thompson
- Owned company for two and a half years
- Formerly worked for Teen Help as admissions coordinator
- Assured "parents" that CCM was an excellent school
- said she would place her own daughter there
- said her company was 20 minutes away from CCM
- knows a lot of people that worked there

She was willing to transport the imaginary child for a fee. She quoted a specific fee (will not be more specific to protect the identities of the participants in this). She said she would be able to transport the child in less than 24 hours. She said her workers could be in and out of the house in 4 minutes. She stated that he/she would be woken up in the middle of the night, and not allowed to use the bathroom until the child arrived at the airport.

Julie Thompson stated that her service was UNLICENSED but _good_.

[size=18px]THIS IS WHO ISABELLE ZEHNDER DIRECTLY REFERS PARENTS TO.

THIS IS NOT SPECULATION THIS IS FACT.
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I will testify to this under oath, and I do have proof. You know how I work. Don't fuck with me on this. Shut down CAICA, leave, and never every show your fat hog ass around this industry ever again. I have FAR more than you think. Pray to god parents you referred to these services don't sue you, and your traitor friend blind. And stay the FUCK away from survivors. They aren't there for your PR. How DARE you call yourself an advocate.

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She refers parents to a child kidnapper who delivers victims to the hands of WWASPS? THis can be proven?

This so called child advocate is finally exposed now as the fraud they are.
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Postby ZenAgent » 08 Jun 2007, 04:57

This is the domino effect I was speculating on in the PURE bullshit thread. The dual-Sudweeks defense blogs were an indication that paranoia was eating away at Sue and Izzy, so they went into ass-covering mode. Izzy seems a bit more mentally challenged than Sue, though. Greed+stupidity=failure and shame, my fat bitches. Find out where the Sudweeks are hiding out, maybe they've got room under their rock for you two...better be a big fuggin' rock to accommodate these two glandular cases
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Postby psy » 08 Jun 2007, 04:57

\"Guest\" wrote:
\"psy\" wrote:Izabelle Zehnder. You are FUCKED. This feels so good to type.

A friend of a friend of mine (with a deeper voice) called up Sunrise academy as a prospective parent claiming to have a kid who needed transportation to Cross Creek Manor (WWASP). I do have proof and It will be submitted to ISAC as soon as possible, thought the information on the identity of those who performed this call will remain confidential. As a blogger (in your own words Izzy) I am entitled to freedom of the press and confidentiality for my sources. Whether or not the court upholds that, I will not release the identities. As a part time journalist, I protect my sources, and my friends. I don't do dirt lists anymore.

Information about Sunrise academy:

Owner: Julie Thompson
- Owned company for two and a half years
- Formerly worked for Teen Help as admissions coordinator
- Assured "parents" that CCM was an excellent school
- said she would place her own daughter there
- said her company was 20 minutes away from CCM
- knows a lot of people that worked there

She was willing to transport the imaginary child for a fee. She quoted a specific fee (will not be more specific to protect the identities of the participants in this). She said she would be able to transport the child in less than 24 hours. She said her workers could be in and out of the house in 4 minutes. She stated that he/she would be woken up in the middle of the night, and not allowed to use the bathroom until the child arrived at the airport.

Julie Thompson stated that her service was UNLICENSED but _good_.

[size=18px]THIS IS WHO ISABELLE ZEHNDER DIRECTLY REFERS PARENTS TO.

THIS IS NOT SPECULATION THIS IS FACT.
[/size]

I will testify to this under oath, and I do have proof. You know how I work. Don't fuck with me on this. Shut down CAICA, leave, and never every show your fat hog ass around this industry ever again. I have FAR more than you think. Pray to god parents you referred to these services don't sue you, and your traitor friend blind. And stay the FUCK away from survivors. They aren't there for your PR. How DARE you call yourself an advocate.

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She refers parents to a child kidnapper who delivers victims to the hands of WWASPS? THis can be proven?


Yes. I have proof. But for the moment you will have to take my word for it.

I have to protect the identities of the person who made the calls. That being said, If i (or anybody involved in this) disappear somehow (have an accident, brake failure, slip in shower, shoot self twice in back of head..), you will have the proof publicly. That I promise. For now, it is "life insurance". Considering the odd timing of receiving a (not so) veiled threat, it is probably best I keep it. I will testify to it though if she sues me for libel (which she won't .. unless she is REALLY dumb)

I protect source, source protects me. Works well.

Izzy: Now be a good fatass and retire.
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Postby ZenAgent » 08 Jun 2007, 05:24

I posted a comment on Izzy's Whitmore Blog that put her in defense mode, she deleted it then misquoted me (and mis-sexed me...wonder who she thought I was? Hmmm...) and started the sabre-rattling crap she so recently yanked down.

This is from the other thread:

On her Whitmore blog, Izzy wrote:

"She(that's HE, Vileness - Zen)goes on to say CAICA is worried because we referred children there. CAICA is not a referral agency so never referred any child there."

No, but CAICA is aligned with PURE, and who's to say a parent didn't put trust in CAICA and followed CAICA's praise of PURE to Scheff, and from there the road to hell led to the Whitmore...

It's the dreaded "domino effect" Sue and Izzy want to avoid, and they're backpedaling, spinning, lashing out blindly, and trying to scorch the earth five miles in every direction in an attempt to get out of the way of the falling blocks.


I was off, the connection between CAICA and PURE is much more direct, but you see how itchy Zehnder got when it was suggested she had referred children. Izzy. Izzy, Izzy. The end is nigh. Tell Sue the news.
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Postby AnonMOM » 08 Jun 2007, 05:34

I would not place any worry about threats from someone who only has 11 friends on myspace, you would think a great a person who this person says she is would have hundreds of friends...blah....just someone with no life trying to make out they are great...geeze :roll:
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Postby ZenAgent » 08 Jun 2007, 05:35

Oh, yeah...when I saw the torrent called "Isabelle Zehnder exposed", I was really afraid of what I was going to find when it finished D/L...I didn't want to see Izzy in a Paris Hilton kinda video... :cry2: ::noway:: ::puke::
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Postby Guest » 08 Jun 2007, 05:36

She doesnt have grounds to sue you. Even if the content of truth is provided maliciously .. if it is truth, and it is in the public interest.. she doesnt have grounds to sue you. If she tries .. the courthouse will be lined around the block with witnesses to suppor you ...

IN THE MEANTIME... it would be great if a reporter picked up this "tidbit". and announced [b]CAICA "advocate" theatens ABUSE survivor.

Nice IZ.. this sure looks good for you. If this was not true .. you would not try to intimate a kid who survived a program. I think your behavior speaks volumes on this issue.

If it wasnt true.. why not just speak up and answer the questions people are asking? Theatening people who have survived outrageous abuses similar to POW conditions is really low. If this information is not true address it. We are all waiting for it. We all know you are reading.. we are just waiting to for answers.
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Postby Guest » 08 Jun 2007, 05:47

I just find it odd that izzy would assist in referring someone to a transporter, given that she said the reason she got into "advocacy" was because some kid living with her was taken from her home by tranporters and sent far away.

WTH?

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