More News on Dundee and WWASP

[Carey]

You calling me a snitch implies that someone was doing something shady.  You calling me a snitch implies that I am informing others of wrong doing.  Are you implying that you were doing something shady?  Are you implying that Sue was doing something shady?  Who exactly is it that you claim I am snitching on?  

After you tell me who I am snitching on then tell me how is it that I am a snitch.  Is it because I am willing to share my story with everyone?  Is that what makes me a snitch?  Does telling what happened to me and my family make me a snitch?

You are trying to control who I talk to.  You can't do that.  You can't control people.  Have you not learned that by now.  Look at what you did to your child while trying to control him/her.  

Telling what happened to me and my family is not hurting you.  What is hurting you and your family is your affiliation with Sue.  Once you realize that and can separate yourself from others like sue who promote these types of programs then maybe you will be able to help yourself and your family.  Until then, you are only putting one program down in order to promote and protect another.

[Carey]

Where I grew up snitches were taken to the back alley beat up and dumped in the ocean for fish food.

Since that is how you see life, why then are you so upset about what you say has happened to your child.  You sent he/she to program to straighten him/her out for his or her own wrong doing.  Sounds to me like that is what you would expect. YOu know, beat the shit out of your child, scare the shit out of your child, straighten him out, then send him home. Problem is, it must not have worked, you must not have gotten what you paid for.  It just did not work out the way you planned.  So now you are mad.  

I take that as a personal threat.  You know who the dangerous people are.  People like YOU.  Parents like you.   People who need to control everyone and everything.  The more I hear you people talk the more I realize just how STUPID you are.  I use to could not for the life of me understand how parents such as yourself could be so blindly led...but it all becomes clearer and clearer with every  statement you make.

[Carey]

Anon, do you care to elaborate?

[Carey]

Oh Anon, where did you go?  Why are you not willing to answer the questions?

[Anonymous]

Can't answer for the other anon - but heres a few for you Carey O -

How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

Did you first call them, or did they call you?

What do you think will be the result of your openess and honesty with wwasp?

Do you really think they give a ratts ass about your story?

Why do you suppose they want copies of your old email?

What do you suppose they intend to do with it?

How many voices in the fight to expose the abuse and fraud do you suppose this action of yours will help wwasp force to quite?

Did you think about that at all?

Do you care?

Do you expect to remain uneffected and unfazed by the consequence of your actions?

Just courious.

[Antigen]

Rich Titsch's forum is like a ghost town. Really like a ghost town; despite the fact that there have been only a couple of posts in the last couple of days, the hit counter keeps on running. It's like you can feel the eyes on you, but there's nobody showing themselves.

http://www.bulletinboards.com/view.cfm? ... ch#537688L

SOMEbody's reading, but nobody's saying a thing. I bet if I crawled my logs right now, I'd come up with a consistent pattern of hits from certain users located in Utah, too.

(Hi!  :wave: You know we love you. A lot of us were once brainwashed maniacle zealots ourselves, just like you, after all.)

I think they may have suddenly realized that the dedicated defenders are doing more harm than good by voicing their real thoughts and the honchos have issued a moratorium on public discussion.

Honestly, I was surprised to see them come out like this in the first place. When I was in the Program, it was verboten to even read news about it, far less respond publicly to it.

               The body of
        Benjamin Franklin, printer,
      (Like the cover of an old book,
            Its contents worn out,
    And scripts of it's lettering and gilding)
       Lies Here, food for worms!
     Yet the work itself shall not be lost,
For it will, as he believed, appear once more
                 In a new
         And more beautiful edition,
          Corrected and amended
                By it's Author!

Epitaph for himself.

--Benjamin Franklin 1706-1790

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American drug war P.O.W.
   10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous

[Carey]

How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

Anon, you want to know how long I have been communicating with WWASP.  I don't mind at all sharing that with you.  I have been talking with WWASP since July of 2002.  That was when I sent my first email stating my objections to my boys placement within their program. It was sent directly to Amberly Knight, the director at the time of my boys incarceration.

Do you expect to remain uneffected and unfazed by the consequence of your actions?

Are you talking about me telling about what has happened to my family?

[Anonymous]

Carey O

you skipped a bunch.
Wanna try again?

And remember, your problem isn't with wwasp, but with Dundee. wwasp didn't hurt your family. Dundee did.
Shall I find the quote for you?

I'm not asking when you wrote Dundee.

I'm not talking about your family.

Now, lets try this again. . .

How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

Did you first call them, or did they call you?

What do you think will be the result of your openess and honesty with wwasp?

Do you really think they give a ratts ass about your story?

Why do you suppose they want copies of your old email?

What do you suppose they intend to do with it?

How many voices in the fight to expose the abuse and fraud do you suppose this action of yours will help wwasp force to quite?

Did you think about that at all?

Do you care?

Do you expect to remain uneffected and unfazed by the consequence of your actions?

Just courious.

[Carey]

Anon O

I'm not asking when you wrote Dundee.

Are you saying that Dundee is not part of WWASP?  Either you think it is or you think it isn't.   Tell me, what do you think, is it or is it not?  

After you answer that question, give your real name, if you have the balls, and I will gladly answer all of your questions.  I have nothing to hide...that is why I post as Carey and not Anon.  

The difference in me and you is that I don't have to hide behind an Anon posting because I speak the truth.  You on the other hand fear your very own words.  

Why do you fear my communication with WWASP?  What would I have to share that could or would be so detrimental to one such as yourself.  You know everything about my experience.  

If you answer this one questions I will answer all of yours.   How can my telling about my experience with Sue Scheff, Trekers, Amberly, Dundee and Bozak hurt kids?

[Anonymous]

Are you saying that Dundee is not part of WWASP? Either you think it is or you think it isn't. Tell me, what do you think, is it or is it not?


Its you who made the distinction my dear -


Carey
A regular around here

Joined: 2003-01-18
Posts: 414 Posted: 2003-08-02 08:52:00

However, I will be specific and state that my issues were with Dundee. I have had very little dealings with WWASP,

Carey
A regular around here

Joined: 2003-01-18
Posts: 414 Posted: 2003-08-03 08:10:00

What I am coming to realize is that my family has been hurt by Dundee (and all of its staff) and PURE, Inc. not WWASP.

Carey
A regular around here

Joined: 2003-01-18
Posts: 415 This one is joke...Sue's not in it for the money...right.
Posted: 2003-09-01 07:14:00

I am going to say this again, as I know I have stated it in the past, WWASP did not hurt me and my boys, Dundee, PURE, Bozak, Amberly and Joe are the ones who are responsible for that.



Carey
A regular around here

Joined: 2003-01-18
Posts: 418 Posted: 2003-10-13 18:03:00

Do you know what a snitch is? It is an informer. Yep, that is me, an informer. But then I believe in information. Information is what helps us to make better decisions. I have been informing people about what has happened to me from the very beginning...right here on a public forum and else where. I have been informing people privately who inquire.

Carey
A regular around here

Joined: 2003-01-18
Posts: 418 Posted: 2003-10-14 08:11:00

I will give any and all information I have on PURE and Trekers to WWASP. What ever they have not picked up here on this forum, they are welcome to. Why? Why not? I do not hold any secret information. What I have to share is for the public. What I have to share can't hurt kids. It can hurt others, but that is not my concern.



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O Scary O Carey O -  It?s the ?others? whom you?ve tried to help WWASP silence, who are sticking their necks out to inform the parents of the kids and thereby help the kids.

You can cut out the BS. You don?t care anything about anyone besides yourself; and you don?t care what kind of damage you leave in your wake as long as your gratifying your own selfish desires.  Can everybody say Malignant Narcissist? ~~~~~~~

[Carey]

Are you saying that Dundee is not part of WWASP? Either you think it is or you think it isn't. Tell me, what do you think, is it or is it not?

I know what I think.  I was asking you what you think.  If you think Dundee is part of WWASP then the first person I spoke to was Amberly.  

I am going to say this again, as I know I have stated it in the past, WWASP did not hurt me and my boys, Dundee, PURE, Bozak, Amberly and Joe are the ones who are responsible for that.

That is exactly how I feel.  You talking about being exploited...these people did the exploiting.  PURE and Bozak are only interested in making money off of those whom they claim to be helping while Amberly and Joe were both directors at the school in which my kids were being held.  They both knew I was against their placement there.  Why if Amberly knew about the abuses, did she wait so long to come forward?  I'll tell you why, it was because I had posted on the Boarding School Truth site that she was invovled in the rape.  It was then that she came forward.  She told me she would rather have walked away and moved on with her life.  I was making that impossible for her by dragging her name into the ordeal. Joe, well I am not even going to go there.

Do you know what a snitch is? It is an informer. Yep, that is me, an informer. But then I believe in information. Information is what helps us to make better decisions. I have been informing people about what has happened to me from the very beginning...right here on a public forum and else where. I have been informing people privately who inquire.

You people who keep calling me a snitch are implying that you were doing something wrong.  Is that what you feel?  Do you feel like you were doing something wrong?  I will inform everyone who wants to know exactly what has transpired over the last year.  It is my experience and it is something that people need to know.  If you feel that by sharing this information I am snitching on you...then you probably should not have been doing what ever it is you were doing.  I know that through the process of everything that I have done, I have done nothing wrong.  I am only guilty of sharing information and not like you, trying to control information.

[Anonymous]

Wanna try again?



How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

Did you first call them, or did they call you?

What do you think will be the result of your openess and honesty with wwasp?

Do you really think they give a ratts ass about your story?

Why do you suppose they want copies of your old email?

What do you suppose they intend to do with it?

How many voices in the fight to expose the abuse and fraud do you suppose this action of yours will help wwasp force to quite?

Did you think about that at all?

Do you care?

Do you expect to remain uneffected and unfazed by the consequence of your actions?

Just courious.

[Carey]

Duc & Wev.  That would be you...who are you?  Oh duk I forgot you are Anon.  How much more can you duk and wev than that?

Answer, is Dundee part of WWASP?  What is your opinion? You can not have it both ways, either they are or they are not.

How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

I answered your question.  I first spoke with Amberly back in July of 2002.  This is when my issues with the program began.  This is when it all began and I started to realize that something was not right.  This is when I began to know that someone was controling  and limiting the flow of information.  

Why?  What does everyone including you, have to hide.  What is there about you to snitch on?  Why are you afraid of who you are?  Why can you not hold your head up high and speak out loud?  As a real person and not an Anon...a duk & wever?

[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2003-11-11 12:12 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2003-11-11 12:19 ]

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[Anonymous]

Wanna try again?



How long you been chatten with wwasp? Give us a start date, please. I know you keep good records, so you can answer this with no problem.

Did you first call them, or did they call you?

What do you think will be the result of your openess and honesty with wwasp?

Do you really think they give a ratts ass about your story?

Why do you suppose they want copies of your old email?

What do you suppose they intend to do with it?

How many voices in the fight to expose the abuse and fraud do you suppose this action of yours will help wwasp force to quite?

Did you think about that at all?

Do you care?

Do you expect to remain uneffected and unfazed by the consequence of your actions?

Just courious.