Wow, Ursus
If you think that ISAC look what you just reduced ISACCORP to!
The things that you have listed are not the only things that they do or have done or will do.
Look at the words that you chose to discribe cafety and then take a look at the words that you chose to describe ISACCORP. You really have no clue do you?
Research next time before you open your mouth. Thank buh bye now. Sounds like someone is up Cafety's asshole there URSUS.
-Clara
And just to point out before you think it was me, I didn't post this Ursus.
However, to clarify a few key fundamental differences between ISAC and the rest of the herd I'll point a few things out. ISAC isn't into self-promotion which might explain why the core group of Bill and Shelby seem to struggle so much to keep ISAC running. You see that link at the very bottom of my signature everyone? For god's sake please go use it to donate some money to ISAC.
I won't go into extensive detail about Bill and Shelby's personal life but they really do sacrifice a great deal for their own organization. They do so quietly without the intention of drawing fame and the promise of a grant money to buy new office furniture.
Again, if you have 10 dollars to spare.. go spare it.
Here is their official donation page link:
http://www.isaccorp.org/donate.aspI'm kicking myself for closing my American bank account. I'd love to donate some money but can't easily manage it. However, I have promised to donate money to fornits this year. I'll do so and make a matching contribution to ISAC. Just not sure how at this point in time.
The other thing to remember about ISAC is what doesn't get talked about by ISAC very much. Let's take Shelby.. She went all the way to Jamaica to get in TB's face. Bill has regularly driven all the way to Ohio to helped Deprogrammed protest KHK.
The guy who runs ISAC's European branch, a decent fellow who I have traded private messages with on the rare occasion, donated a nice chunk of bread to Psy's Benchmark protest fund.
ISAC has that credibility of being an organization that hasn't compromised its values.
I could say a great many things about CAFETY. To be honest my opinion changes about them with the coming and going of the tide. I do know that a person I trust told me that they believe that Blombrowski is sincere in his efforts. Cafety has had some serious growing pains and probably is going to have more as the mature. But, let's be clear, they have grown and will continue to grow.
However, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll find their way in this cold advocate's world without attempting to undercut their efforts even if I don't entirely agree with their aims.