Harbor Oaks Determined Neglectful by State of N.C.

[Anonymous]

Harbor Oaks Boarding School has been determined to be neglectful by the State of North Carolina.

This facility has been placed on ISAC's Watch List.

http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp#harboroaks

Reportedly, Sue Scheff/PURE refers children to this facility; and Scheff's daughter works at this facility as a "counselor."

Isabelle Zehnder reportedly admitted to referring a student from Carolina Springs Academy to Harbor Oaks Boarding Schools; and claims she personally interviewed this facility to verfify it as a safe facility.

[search4truth]

Flossie R. Ball, Director Madison County Dept of Social Services states:
Harbor Oaks lack of needed mental and behavioral health care by a NC licensensed counselor by the state.

Improper supervision of an at-risk student population.

Concerns pertinent to therapeutic residetial facility licensing have been referred to NC Division of Facility Services

In an email from owner, Patricia Jones dated August 24, 2007; Patricia Jones stated:
"House parents are trained in pastoral care and situational counseling.  Licensed or certified counselors conduct group sessions regularly.  Individual counseling is available on a weekly basis."

Patricia Jones goes on to state:
"The students live in a lodge with constant 24 hour constant supervision."

Patricia Jones stated:
"Although the facility is not licensed, since it is a Christian Boarding School, it answers to all guidelines and regulations of the state."

Patricia Jones signed the email,  Patricia Jones, PhD.

[Che Gookin]

Job well done and I can't wait to see what you have waiting for Sue-Sue next time around.

[Che Gookin]

http://http://www.isaccorp.org/harboroaks/harboroaksneglect.html

Here is the exact document link... very interesting..

[ZenAgent]

How old are the Jones?  They remind me of Bob and Betty Wills from Mountain Park, but Betty was 66 in 2004 and Patricia doesn't look that old.  Never can tell, though, her face may have so much Botox in it she can't even snarl  while she's practicing her Clinical Christian Psychology.  The sound of it gives me the creeps...

"I'm afraid I have homo-sixual urges, Sister Pat,"

"Don't worry about it, child. Satan's a sissy-boy, too.  You'll be surrounded by degenerates like yourself - as you burn, squealing like pigs over a spit in the ghetto part of hell, Sodomite.  That's the way Jesus wants it,"

Sorry if I offended any Christians, but Christian Psychology seems like it would have a very limited amount of acceptable treatments.  

I was looking through depositions from Mountain Park, the exchanges between Oscar Stilley and the now deceased son of an evil, hell-spawned, obnoxious bitch named John Oliver give good insight into how a good Christian lawyer like Oliver deals with a good Amish boy like Oscar:

MR. OLIVER:, come on. That's the subject

of the juvenile thing, Oscar. I mean, you are a

sneaky son of a bitch.

MR. STILLEY: We don't have evidence of that,

now, do we?

MR. OLIVER: You are a sneaky little bastard,

and I think we ought to quit. And I would ask Mr.

Baker to stop the deposition. I mean, this is

beyond.

A friend who was deeply involved with the Mountain Park case would mention John Oliver's name and quickly tag "he's dead now" on the end, sort of a charm to ensure his evilness stays dead.

I want to read some more about Jim and Patricia Jones.  I mean, damn it, would you turn your kids over to a guy named Jim Jones?  They'll definitely be drinking the Kool-Aid.

[Oz girl]

i hear of kids in some of these religious places calling the staff Sister or Brother when they are not ordained nuns or religious brothers in the Catholic sense. Can someone please explain why this practice? is it some kind of evangelical thing like WWJD bracelets? Apologies if this question is kind of stupid but i am not familiar with the practice

[Che Gookin]

i hear of kids in some of these religious places calling the staff Sister or Brother when they are not ordained nuns or religious brothers in the Catholic sense. Can someone please explain why this practice? is it some kind of evangelical thing like WWJD bracelets? Apologies if this question is kind of stupid but i am not familiar with the practice

Maybe they are going for a false sort of incestual inbreding sort of thing?

[ZenAgent]

i hear of kids in some of these religious places calling the staff Sister or Brother when they are not ordained nuns or religious brothers in the Catholic sense. Can someone please explain why this practice? is it some kind of evangelical thing like WWJD bracelets? Apologies if this question is kind of stupid but i am not familiar with the practice

WWJD?  What's that about?  I thought it meant "Willie Wonka Just Died,"

[hanzomon4]

I think it's a view that they are all brothers and sisters in Christ. However in reality it's more like the staff are brothers and sisters and the kids are punching bags. The gusto some of these brothers and sisters beat kids with has fetish written all over it.

[Anonymous]

WWJD?  What's that about?  I thought it meant "Willie Wonka Just Died,"

:rofl:
what would jesus do

[Oz girl]

I think it's a view that they are all brothers and sisters in Christ. However in reality it's more like the staff are brothers and sisters and the kids are punching bags. The gusto some of these brothers and sisters beat kids with has fetish written all over it.

Well yeah that would make sense in a creepy kinda way if the kids were made call each other this or if just the adults did it. But as you pointed out these programs dont really make the pretence of equality

[Anonymous]

I don't know if this is related or not.. but, typically in the mormon faith..  
church members refer to eachother as brother & sister.  You actually address them as Sister Jane or Brother Jack.

[Deborah]

Same with Baptist and Pentecostal

[ZenAgent]

My new cell phone's number belonged to a local Knoxville Reverend before me.  I get all these interesting messages, and occasionally I answer and someone asks for "Brother S____".   I've started to screw with the callers a bit...they think I'm the preacher and ask if I remember talking to them about such-and-such, and I reply 'No...no, brother, I gotta tell ya, I was pretty damn high when we discussed that matter.  Why don't you swing by the Church and we'll roll some bones and catch a fire while you refresh my fuckin' memory, brother,"

[Anonymous]

Here's the BIO of the Dean of Boys at Harbor Oaks.
NOTE: each position appears to always be a "couple," rather than an individual.

Vince and Dana Brown, Deans of Boys
Vince’s last ministry position included an assignment as Special Projects Manager at the Hope Center in Murfreesboro, TN. His work included grant writing, Community Café and the Homeless Taskforce for Murfreesboro. He also served as a counselor and staff member of the Lazarus Project, a twelve month rehabilitation program for men. Vince completed his undergraduate work in political science at the University of Memphis while lettering in baseball. Vince has also been ordained in the office of Chaplain. He is also the father of three, Joshua (14), Destinee (9) and, Summer (7).

Dana has 17 years management experience in retail and corporate organization settings.  She is a mother of two boys, ages 8 and 19, and is finishing her Bachelor’s degree in business management through Austin Peay State University and plans on pursuing her Master’s degree in Forensic Psychology through Cornerstone University.  â€œMy goal is to help the students at HOBS to build character, help them to be productive citizens in order to prepare them for the real world and to be the best spiritual stepping stone that I can be for each of them.â€