Internet Terrorism

[Anonymous]

rumor has it.............  that 20/20 will run a piece in August called "Internet Terrorism" and sue is slated to be one of the 'victim' guests.  
might the producer be interested in hearing of her role in Teen Terrorism? drop em a line. at the very least, they should be encouraged to present a 'balanced' perspective. who's the real terrorist?

[Anonymous]

Yeah, let's be sure and send the producers at 20/20 the other side of the story.  

Good place to start would be the Whitmore debacle/blogs - seems the door swings both ways ...

And then there is the long-awaited "lovely" news about Sue Scheff/PURE we've all been waiting for  ....   :wink:

Here's the email addie for 20/20  

2020@abcnews.go.com

[Froderik]

Not that this should thwart anyone or anything, but I thought it would be worth mentioning that Sue Scheff recently won that case against Carey Bock. That sucks, as it sets a bad legal precedent...carry on!

[Anonymous]

http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/

At the very least, the producers should hear Carey's side and why many people question the integrity of a judicial process that does not allow for official transcripts of a court proceeding.  That, in and of itself, raises very troubling questions IMO.

Second, it's my understanding Carey is still attempting to get this obscene judgment vacated and failing that, she is entitled by law to file an appeal.

Will Carey be asked HOW she feels about the blogs written by Scheff which she claims are misleading and even false?  What about Joyce Harris?  The Whitmore kids and their parents?

These producers are going to be caught with their pants down if they don't do their homework and look at the other side of the coin IMO, especially given the growing controversy with Reputation Defender which essentially is paid to manipulate  public opinion in favor of their clients IMO.

[Froderik]

Right on...

[Anonymous]

Not that this should thwart anyone or anything, but I thought it would be worth mentioning that Sue Scheff recently won that case against Carey Bock. That sucks, as it sets a bad legal precedent...carry on!

By won that case, you must mean she didn't prevail on the motion to vacate the judgment?  If so, that's fairly predictable IMO.

She needs to get herself a top rate 1st amendment rights lawyer and file an appeal within a timely manner.  I'm sure her current attorney can advise her on what steps she needs to take.  Clearly, being invited to share her opinion on 20/20 would greatly boost her visibility in the free speech legal community so I hope she gets on the ball and contacts them ASAP.

Good luck Carey - you are not without support and I hope you get the chance to be heard.

[Anonymous]

Maybe ALL the attorneys involved in the ongoing Whitmore Academy CIVIL CASE could get a SPOT on this 20/20 event, too!  ATTORNEYS usually love appearing on TV, don't they?

They could even invite Jared Eldridge, the Juab County Attorney, who gave Cheryl Sudweeks that sweet plea bargain in the Whitmore criminal case; and he could explain all THAT!  That might be interesting.

And maybe the Whitmore victims in the Whitmore Academy criminal case could be invited to this 20/20 event; and they could explain if they were referred to Whitmore Academy by Sue Scheff, or not?  These children could possibly talk about how they feel about Cheryl Sudweeks's plea bargain?  

Perhaps victims from the criminal case could discuss how they felt about their pictures being posted on Sue Scheff's Whitmore Blog; and maybe  reveal if they felt terriorized in any way by having their pictures displayed on such a blog?

[Anonymous]

Maybe ALL the attorneys involved in the ongoing Whitmore Academy CIVIL CASE could get a SPOT on this 20/20 event, too!  ATTORNEYS usually love appearing on TV, don't they?

They could even invite Jared Eldridge, the Juab County Attorney, who gave Cheryl Sudweeks that sweet plea bargain in the Whitmore criminal case; and he could explain all THAT!  That might be interesting.

And maybe the Whitmore victims in the Whitmore Academy criminal case could be invited to this 20/20 event; and they could explain if they were referred to Whitmore Academy by Sue Scheff, or not?  These children could possibly talk about how they feel about Cheryl Sudweeks's plea bargain?  

Perhaps victims from the criminal case could discuss how they felt about their pictures being posted on Sue Scheff's Whitmore Blog; and maybe  reveal if they felt terriorized in any way by having their pictures displayed on such a blog?

Well, the email address for 20/20 has been posted - the ball is in your court.

Start writing and/or call the producer.  It's like they have your name or number.

[Anonymous]

Corrected to read:

Start writing and/or call the producer. It's NOT like they have your name or number.

Personally, I am hoping they talk to Bock first and foremost, because the court of public opinion is an arena she could very well prevail in.  Scheff is not without controversy, that is for damn sure.

[Froderik]

By won that case, you must mean she didn't prevail on the motion to vacate the judgment? If so, that's fairly predictable IMO.

No, I meant she won the case... :rofl:

Really I have no fucking clue about what you just said, you must be a lawyer...? ::bwahaha::

Anyway, on with the show! Appeal the case!! Stick it to that bitch!!!

[psy]

Here is what I wrote:

I would trust that 20/20, with a dedication to exploring all possibilities and exposing the truth would be willing to look at the other side of the argument (especially in relation to Sue Scheff).  She claims to be a victim but is more of a perpetrator than anything else.  Among other things, I have hard evidence she is currently working with WWASP, an organization she claims to hate and be fighting against.  She is using her legal leverage and Reputation Defender to propogate lies about her and supress any voice of dissent.  You seem to be investigating "internet terrorism" when a better example in the case of Sue Scheff would be "internet totalitarianism" or "supression of free speech in America using .  I am more than willing to speak on the record regarding this matter, even under oath / sworn statement.  If you are willing to investigate why so many people seem to be upset with Sue Scheff, I would be more than happy to provide you with ample hard documentation (court documents, etc...).

Sincerely,
Michael Crawford

I hope that others will take the initiative as well and write 20/20.  It would be a real shame if Sue Scheff used what is supposed to be a venue for investigative journalism to further her own agenda.  And yes, I have a LOT of very solid evidence Sue Scheff is currently referring to WWASP affiliated programs.

My own, personal, cynical opinion is that 20/20 could probably give a damn less about the truth as long as it sounded sensational.  Well...  Such is the state of the modern mass media.

[Anonymous]

MSNBC, they do great investigative reporting.

[Anonymous]

There is no official court record/transcript of this "trial" against Bock.  Will 20/20 be thorough enough to discover this shocking fact or rely solely on the word of Sue Scheff, her attorney, and jurors who never heard the defendant's side?

IMO, this judgment reeks of injustice.  I hope 20/20 does their homework and brings in some 1st Amendment experts who can talk about the case from a constitutional and legal standpoint.

Second, it's obvious Florida has some serious problems and is in desperate need of tort reform.

$11 million to Sue Scheff and less than half of that to the parents of a boy killed by the state.  

That is majorly messed up IMO.

To Carey:

Please do not let this opportunity to make your plight known on the national level.   The judgment in your case has impacted the free speech rights of all Americans.  You need to speak out and let the facts be known.

[Carey]

I have been speaking out about the issues at hand.  That is why I am in the predicament I am in.  

The only thing I am guilty of is not appearing in court when my trial went to case.  I didn't appear because there were circumstances in my life that were an important and necessary part of my recovery.   What has happened as a result of that has blown me away.  It makes me question the very foundation of justice.    

I have shared my experiences of those involved in an industry that is running "out of control" and with "lack of regulations."  I plan on continuing to fight for what I think is right.

 

Please do not let this opportunity to make your plight known on the national level. The judgment in your case has impacted the free speech rights of all Americans. You need to speak out and let the facts be known.

I am not sure what it is you want me to do.  I am trying to see what I can do about appealing the judges decision.  I have contacted 20/20.  Do you have any other suggestions?

[Anonymous]

Carey, would it help to organize a petition on your behalf that could be distributed nationwide?  

Second, it's expensive to continue fighting but I would imagine if this goes to appeal, your case will generate considerable more interest so don't be disheartened.  

I hope 20/20 interviews you and your family, attorney, and any witnesses who are willing to speak up for you.

Ultimately, the more you can state your case in the court of public opinion, the more likely you are to focus attention on why you believe your constitutional and legal rights to a fair trial were violated.

I wonder how many other people have experienced similar problems in Florida under their system of justice?

I have started looking into that and will report my findings shortly.  Already I have discovered an issue that involves Broward County courts which I believe is where this so-called "trial" occurred.