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« Reply #720 on: December 05, 2005, 03:58:00 PM »
interesting!
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« Reply #721 on: December 06, 2005, 07:27:00 AM »
Little hard to look at the finger the same. :nworthy:
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« Reply #722 on: December 06, 2005, 08:12:00 PM »
Guts or balls
 
We've all heard about people having guts or balls. But do you really know the difference between them? In an effort to keep you informed, the definition for each is listed below...
 
GUTS - is arriving home late after a night out with the guys, being assaulted by your wife with a broom, and having the guts to ask: "Are you still cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?"
 
BALLS - is coming home late after a night out with the guys, smelling of perfume and beer, lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the rear and having the balls to say: "You're next."
 
I hope this clears up any confusion on the subject.
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« Reply #723 on: December 07, 2005, 03:53:00 AM »
A little something I learned in College Biology recently. This is the truth so check it out if you doubt me.

Humans have 46 chromosomes. Half come from mom; half from dad, and they make 23 pairs. Scientists label chromosomes 1-22 by their size, 1 being the largest. The 23rd pair of chromosomes are called the sex chromosomes and are unique. If someone is XX she a girl. If XY it's a boy. So just what is the difference between the X and Y chromosome?

A lot! Since the human genome project began a lot of gene sequence mapping has been done but it is far from complete. Scientists still do not know exactly how many genes are on most chromosomes. But they do know chromosomes 1-22 carry about the same number of genes per pair. However the Y chromosome carries a total of less than 10% of the X. (My text states 15 for the Y, about 2500 for the X). No wonder women are more complicated, huh?

Chromosomes are structures that carry specific genes. You can kind of think of them as spaces in a parking lot. Some parking lots are large with space for 3500 cars or more while others are small like the ones at McDonalds.

It is true, in sex linked disorders, such as hemophilia, color blindness, etc the faulty gene comes from the mother, but that is because dad?s Y gene had nothing at all to offer. If the baby is a girl, she gets 2 chances for a good gene. Hence there are very few color blind women, and so far none who have hemophilia.

Occasionally, when the first cell splits, a chromosome gets left out or things get jumbled. In almost every case nature sees this as incompatible with life aborts the fetus before mom even knows she was pregnant. A couple of notable exceptions are when there are three 21st chromosomes which results in a child born with tristomy 21, commonly called Down Syndrome.

If the X chromosome is missing, that leaves only the Y. Sorry guys; life is not possible with only a Y not paired with an X because about 2500 genes necessary for life are missing. What would have been a boy is spontaneously aborted, deemed terminally faulty by nature.  

BUT if the Y is missing and only an X remains, you end up with a live baby girl! This condition is called Turner syndrome. She is often unable to bear children and may have other minor physical abnormalities (such as being short or having minor skeletal abnormalities), but she usually has normal intelligence and is able to function perfectly well. The condition is not even usually noticeable.

Makes you wonder who is really stronger.
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« Reply #724 on: December 07, 2005, 10:27:00 AM »
wow now that was educating.... i knew of the 23 chromozones and that they carried the genes but not the gene counts...and i knew of the X and Y factors...but i didnt know X could go full term without the Y..... nor did i know Y seldom is ever came to full term.....with this all in mind..... i am at awe......... understanding and knowing thru faith that christ is virgin born.... christ then had no .. no... Y.... and was born of course ...a  son....in deed god can do all things
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« Reply #725 on: December 07, 2005, 11:51:00 AM »
and then there are the xxy babies.  it's also a syndrome.
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« Reply #726 on: December 07, 2005, 01:04:00 PM »
::bwahaha2:: So when god created men he decovered trail and error......... Told ya! The only thing they where good for was that damn rib.
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« Reply #727 on: December 07, 2005, 02:17:00 PM »
Yes, there are XXX and XXXX and even XXY's and other rarer combinations. But the X chromosome is necessary for LIFE itself. True Y babies NEVER comes to term without the X. They would be missing too much genetic code to fully develop and survive.

There is another thing called a fragile X which resembles a Y.

Don't take that to mean Jesus had no X. In fact XXY people appear male, as do some other combinations. Since we can't do a DNA analysis on him we just can't know.
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« Reply #728 on: December 07, 2005, 08:33:00 PM »
Dose it say anywhere what his type DNA was? I mean did anyone every go back to his tomb and find anything? One little hair probably would have helped they know such much these days. Has anyone ever asked or brought up a study on it.
Just curious? not being smart..Like to know these things. Just being cute earlier. lol...
I love science wanted to study it my whole life.
I'll go look it up and ck it out. Curious Is there gender in heaven I mean not physical but in some mental way? I mean do we stay what we are an eternaty? Probably stupid questions. But I just wonder? :smile:
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« Reply #729 on: December 08, 2005, 12:08:00 PM »
the scripture tells us that their is neither male nor female in heaven...it also tells us we will be known as we are known.....i am sure modern science has tried to do forensics on the empty tomb of our CHRIST what if anything they found i have never found any commentary which has reported such activity..... like you i too wonder...knowing that science hushes any activity and evidence of GOD or CHRIST....
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« Reply #730 on: December 08, 2005, 07:22:00 PM »
Do you think if they ever could get his DNA they would try to clone? The very thought of it makes me shiver. I believe science dose hush any evidence of Christ. On the other hand any so called evidence of God Not being God, they go at lengths to expose. And then it is just a theory.
It seems the more they try to the more they prove that he doesn't the more they prove he dose. And now that there is cloning, they want to believe or prove we are man made. When actually they have started something they can't finish because they can't prove where DNA was first born. Being crated by God dose not satisfy thier taste. Personally I do not believe man will ever be able to create our cell. Clone it already have, create it no.
I think it is what they are looking for in space. They have proof of water and that other things existed but not mans cell, Much less another man.                                    I wonder what it means to be known as we are known? How we will see each other in heaven? If God sees fit to let me go to heaven, I wonder if I will be known by my little girl. Actually I would be satisfied with just a glimpse of her in all her glory, to have never known sin.
Then sometimes it frightens me the very thought of her looking upon me with all my sins, even more God- with all that I have done. To be known as we are known? Wow I never read that. I make Jokes but I very much believe in God. Do Fear and Love him. My sense of humor sometimes get the best of me, But it is what has carried me through my hardest times. It seems I have been given the ability to laugh at most things, instead of cry. But when I do cry it ideally is not about me but for someone else, For those who can not help themselves. As for those who can and don't? I have to take the 5th on that one. Perhapes I should pray a little harder for that one. :smile:
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« Reply #731 on: December 09, 2005, 02:25:00 AM »
its sad the mixed messages we get from pastors .... but the preaching of the cross is simple.....christ came... lived .. was sacrificed on the cross for our sin... died... was buried... rose to life on the 3rd day.... seen among men... and rose to the right hand of god 4o days after rising from the tomb... all this... so that we.. when we come to HIM surrendering ourselves to HIM believing that HE IS and IS the living SON OF GOD..may at that very moment be redeemed from our sin... freed from our sin... and at the very moment washed by his blood(that paid for that sin) making us free from sin... birthing us anew... as children of god... because of the blood over our sin... god can not see our sin... that is not to say we dont sin.. but if we do CHRIST becomes our attorney pleading his blood over the sin...which is why we daily surrender ourselves in prayer... once the blood is over our sin... that sin is never remembered... so in effect when we die... we die in christ who bought our sin.. therefore we appear in heaven as tho sinless  because we surrendered ourselve to HIM and were reborn INTO HIM... king david said.. when his infant son died .. he cant come to me but i will go to him... i believe then that yes you and ur lil girl will know each other... and she will know you are her mom.... she wont however know anything about ur sin because once in heaven you will have no sin... no sin can enter heaven... which is why christ shed his blood .. so we can have a way to heaven... but he wont force us to accept and surrender ourselve... that is for each individual to decide for him/her self....satan loves bring up things that god has forgotten.... but we must remember they are forgiven or buried beneath the blood of the cross so if god because of the blood of his son over that sin has forgotten our sin... why then do we allow satan to shake what god has forgotten in our faces.... prehaps because we havent forgiven ourself... but if god forgives us... then why is it we of all people dont forgive ourself....forgive and forget are two different things to mankind .... to god forgive and forget are one and the same...... and once we enter heaven we too will not remember... because christ wipes it all away... with all the tears he wipes away when we all get to heaven.... so once in prayer to god with our shortcommings... we must learn not to pick them up but leave them with god.... than when satan shakes it in our face... we can in effect stick our tongues at satan... saying ... dude... i dont know what you talking about.... that persons died at the cross go away before i tell my DADDY you bothering me....lolol no easy at first... but once done couple times it gets easier ... it also tees satan off....
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« Reply #732 on: December 10, 2005, 01:39:00 PM »
::dove::  :smile:
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« Reply #733 on: December 10, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »
So will he forgive the taking of another mans life? That started as self defence, because I was beaten so badly? But ended up being an accident? Would he do that? Or am I damned to hell? :???: Because he is not the only one who died that day, I did too. It has been my hell since.
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« Reply #734 on: December 10, 2005, 04:03:00 PM »
Been to the ?record room?, huh? I guess we all have to deal with who we are, and what we have done in our lives. I?m no saint, but I don?t have the fear and dread you describe. Did once, it came from all the self-effacing humbling preaching, but I decided it is more important, and MUCH better for my mental health to forgive myself for being human and remember we create each moment. We touch others daily. Life is a dynamic thing and we touch people in tiny ways we may not even remember that can effect major decisions someone else makes. We were not given the power to see the effects of our actions directly in most cases. I believe in just living my life honestly.

I mean, what is all this 'sin' business? Guess I am really a far cry from the girl who left the Rebekah home. But I?m tired of someone else defining 'sin' for me. I am an honest, decent person who makes mistakes. I refuse to shiver in my panties worrying about what judgment God is going to dole out to me for thinking for myself. I don?t try to ?lead people to the Lord? (although I?m not condemning that) but to show Creator?s love. A lot of people, like myself, have been hurt badly by people who claim to be ?Christains? and then show anything BUT Christ love.

In my disgust, I?ve let religion go. Ask me if I?m saved and I?ll say, whatever jargon you want to call it does not matter to me. What matters is not someone saying the right words, but what is in the heart. If you had an auto accident, for instance and someone was killed, that seems to fall into the shit happens category. Don?t understand why so many bad things happen to people. Just know that this world does not make sense and it is best to trust that there is an intelligent, loving source who will make sense of it all in the end.

 In my humble opinion, I don?t see that it would matter much if we COULD clone Jesus (or Einstein or Hitler). All you would get is genetic make-up that would trace his physical heritage. It seems to me, all our bodies are is a vehicle for the spirit anyway. Some people have intelligence, musical ability, etc, but what really defines someone is not as much the vehicle we enter the world in, but what we do with it. We can develop our bodies and our talents, but it takes spirit and will to do so.

My conscience does not exist to beat me into submission, but to operate like an internal compass that keeps me heading pretty much in the right direction. And if I wander a little, no big deal...we are all human. Even the planets wander a little in their orbits. The tsunami made the earth wander a bit on it?s axis.

The important thing is be on track. What is 'on track'? I think each person must define that for themselves. We were given brains, intuition and spirit that can guide each of us. If I screw up really bad, I might feel the need to make some reparation of some sort, or may have to suffer some consequences but God is still in control. If I wake up in the morning alive, there must be a reason I?ve been given another day to live. God is REALLY big. I don't think we mere mortals could even grasp how big.

I love science. Science is man's search for Truth. If a scientific FACT goes against something I believe in, something needs revising, and it is sometimes my belief system. Spiritual growth comes from all kinds of sources. Other times, the science is flawed and it gets revised eventually. The whole evolution vs. creation argument seems silly to me, because in the end we ARE here, it IS a miracle, and however it happened is really not the point. Some day people may understand the details of how we got here, but it won?t take away the miracle of it all.

I don?t think feeling guilty does anything positive for you unless you are doing something you need to change. Personally, it upsets me to see how much guilt has been doled out by pastors and priests. If I?m gonna feel guilty, by damn it is going to be for something I did, not for BEING who I am. I choose to live my life with eyes as open as possible, love myself, others and my Creator as much as possible, then get up the next day and try to do it better learning each day.
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