The Who

[Troll Control]

Yeah, Bob, that was terrific... I knew you could get thru those, we purposely didn?t make them too difficult and gave you time to research...you did well...
Thank you

Hold on I have the answers for you from your questions.....

I REALLY do think that The Who IS mentally ill.  He keeps referring to himself as "we" :question:   WTF is up with that?  I just don't see how someone with this level of interpersonal communication skills can actually have the story that The Who has concocted about himself.  It just doesn't fit.  How can someone who can't even engage in simple debate or even understand simple data collection or statistics run ANY company?  He misspells words all over the place, uses entirely incorrect words (doesn't know what they mean) AND sits here in this thread all day and all night EVERY DAY.  I just don't believe anything he says.  Too shady, too fake.  Sorry.

[Anonymous]

I just don't believe anything he says.

Congratulations! You're in a group called "The Vast Majority".

TheWho, you do realize that your continued presence on this board is just pissing us off, don't you? Hopefully enough to spur us into finding a good way to get ASR shut down.

Either that, or find your daughter, and perform the horribly mind-searing action of...

...showing her your posts.

[TheWho]

I just don't believe anything he says.

Congratulations! You're in a group called "The Vast Majority".

TheWho, you do realize that your continued presence on this board is just pissing us off, don't you? Hopefully enough to spur us into finding a good way to get ASR shut down.

Either that, or find your daughter, and perform the horribly mind-searing action of...

...showing her your posts.

Look, Lactose, I have read some of your posts and it seems you are the one who likes to piss people off ...it doesnt bother me or piss me off that you dont agree with me, you are entitled like everyone else.  I am giving my opinions and working on getting a perspective of TBS safety at the moment....why would that piss anyone off?  Because I wont take the group position that all therapy is evil, that all schools are the same?
I just dont believe that they are all the same.  

My daughter would probably get a chuckle out of how many here single people out if they step out of line and dont agree with the "Groups  opinions"

[RobertBruce]

Bob wrote:

Is it your opinion that all TBS's are good and no children have ever been abused at a TBS?

I don?t and never have thought in terms of absolutes.  I don?t believe all churches are good, all people are good, all schools are good nor all TBS?s are good.  Children are abused everywhere, in school, TBS?s, Church at home with there family and by family members, which is awful but a fact of life.
What we need to do is remove our child from the unsafe environment and get them to a safe one.  If they are unsafe at home, then get them the heck out and into a safe place.  If they are in some lockup somewhere, get them out to someplace safe.  TBS?s provide this but like anything else parents need to do their homework.

Very well, then explain this:

RobertBruce wrote:
So you cant back up your claim (yet again) and you feel double standards are okay for you to use?

I told you, you were nothing more than an arrogant asshole.


Look this has been my position all along since day one, if you dont like it tough beans, Bob, stop your crying.

While youre at it tell us which TBS's in your opinion are bad, and why?

[RobertBruce]

Because I wont take the group position that all therapy is evil, that all schools are the same?
I just dont believe that they are all the same.

Fine, start backing up your statements with facts, stop pretending you know anything about this industry, stop pretending to be an expert, and start recognizing that some of these places are bad, and start being open to the truth about these places, not your edited and censored nonsense.

[Troll Control]

I just don't believe anything he says.

Congratulations! You're in a group called "The Vast Majority".

TheWho, you do realize that your continued presence on this board is just pissing us off, don't you? Hopefully enough to spur us into finding a good way to get ASR shut down.

Either that, or find your daughter, and perform the horribly mind-searing action of...

...showing her your posts.

Milk, why would you want to fracture this poor girl's already fragile psyche?  It's best for her if she never finds out what her dad is really like.  Why torture her further?

[TheWho]

I just don't believe anything he says.

Congratulations! You're in a group called "The Vast Majority".

TheWho, you do realize that your continued presence on this board is just pissing us off, don't you? Hopefully enough to spur us into finding a good way to get ASR shut down.

Either that, or find your daughter, and perform the horribly mind-searing action of...

...showing her your posts.

Milk, why would you want to fracture this poor girl's already fragile psyche?  It's best for her if she never finds out what her dad is really like.  Why torture her further?

There is probably some reality to that !!!  Although, I think she would find out a few new things about the industry also and the types of people it can produce.

[Troll Control]

Yes, she will see the depth of the sickness of industry people, of which you are one!

[TheWho]

Yes, she will see the depth of the sickness of industry people, of which you are one!

I beg to differ,  there are not many programmies on fornits to view.  I think what she would be more likely to see is insight into thoses who oppose therapy for kids away from home and the blindness that can occur because of their personal experiences, to the point where the entire industry is painted the same color because they lost the ability to differentiate.

[TheWho]

I think we can call this vantage point or perspective which I have found that these can typically change very slowly.  I don?t expect you to see it from my point of view, but its good exchange views if we are to learn and grow.

[Troll Control]

Yes, she will see the depth of the sickness of industry people, of which you are one!

I beg to differ,  there are not many programmies on fornits to view.  I think what she would be more likely to see is insight into thoses who oppose therapy for kids away from home and the blindness that can occur because of their personal experiences, to the point where the entire industry is painted the same color because they lost the ability to differentiate.

So turn her on to the site and let's see.  I know if I saw my father behaving like you it would be incredibly damaging to my image of what and who he is.  You seem to dismiss this possibility in your daughter, so what are you waiting for?  Get her logged in!

I also don't believe anyone here is opposed to therapy, but one thing you just don't understand (not your fault, but you just don't have the requisite education) is that therapy must be provided in the least restrictive setting by licensed practitioners.  

You don't understand this basic tenet of therapy, so you don't understand why sending a kid to another state for "treatment" at a facility they may not leave at the hands of unlicensed and uneducated "counselors" is just wrong on its face.  Res ipsa loquitor if one has any understanding of psychological treatment.

[TheWho]

DJ Wrote:

So turn her on to the site and let's see. I know if I saw my father behaving like you it would be incredibly damaging to my image of what and who he is. You seem to dismiss this possibility in your daughter, so what are you waiting for? Get her logged in!

She may just plug in someday?!!!!

I also don't believe anyone here is opposed to therapy, but one thing you just don't understand (not your fault, but you just don't have the requisite education) is that therapy must be provided in the least restrictive setting by licensed practitioners.

ASR was the least restrictive setting for her and she was treated by a licensed practitioner.  So I think you can see my point?.people here like to paint the entire industry one color.

You don't understand this basic tenet of therapy, so you don't understand why sending a kid to another state for "treatment" at a facility they may not leave at the hands of unlicensed and uneducated "counselors" is just wrong on its face. Res ipsa loquitor if one has any understanding of psychological treatment.

I am not educated formally in psychology and you have proven yourself to be an unreliable source tainted with agenda.  So as I have also warned parents  to seek the opinions of a professional or your Childs therapist to determine the best treatment/path for your child not axe grinders.

[RobertBruce]

to the point where the entire industry is painted the same color because they lost the ability to differentiate.

How is what you do any different?

you have proven yourself to be an unreliable source tainted with agenda.

As have you.

So as I have also warned parents to seek the opinions of a professional or your Childs therapist to determine the best treatment/path for your child not axe grinders.

Again how are you not an axe grinder? The only difference being Dysfunction, myself and many of the other posters on here have our personal expereinces to base our opinions on (that and a shitload of a facts) you were never an inmate at one of these places, you never worked at one of them, and you never fought with them over anything (as many of the parents on here did) because you bought into the brouchure hook line and sinker. Whatsmore you tell people to seek the opinion of a professional yet yourself pretend to be a professional. Add that to the fact that many of these "professionals" don't have a clue as to what goes on in these places, and of those that do many are given "gifts" for every kid they refer.

Give it up Cindy.

[RobertBruce]

Still waiting on you to explain this Cindy:

Very well, then explain this:

Quote:
RobertBruce wrote:
So you cant back up your claim (yet again) and you feel double standards are okay for you to use?

I told you, you were nothing more than an arrogant asshole.


Look this has been my position all along since day one, if you dont like it tough beans, Bob, stop your crying.


While youre at it tell us which TBS's in your opinion are bad, and why?

[TheWho]

Still waiting on you to explain this Cindy:

Very well, then explain this:

Quote:
RobertBruce wrote:
So you cant back up your claim (yet again) and you feel double standards are okay for you to use?

I told you, you were nothing more than an arrogant asshole.


Look this has been my position all along since day one, if you dont like it tough beans, Bob, stop your crying.


While youre at it tell us which TBS's in your opinion are bad, and why?

Sorry, Bob,  I have received many PM?s and emails by several people over the past few weeks to give you a rest and not react to your trolling for a bit and am heeding to their requests.  I have answered all your questions, up to this point.  If you have more (or any I missed), save them up and I will respond to you once a week, lets pick Friday, if that works for you.
Post your questions Thursday nights/ Friday mornings on the thread "The who" and I will respond.  This way we will not waste a ton of Gingers server space going back and forth and the questions will get the attention they deserve.