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« on: June 07, 2006, 11:35:00 AM »
Woman distraught: denied visit with sister at Ivy Ridge Academy


6/6/06

A Michigan woman drove nine hours to Ogdensburg to visit her 18 year old sister at Ivy Ridge Academy.

But Rachel Stachowicz says she was turned away at the door and told to leave the grounds.

"She was out of bounds," said Ivy Ridge Executive Jason Finlinson.

The Academy At Ivy Ridge calls itself "a boarding school for the future." Its website says "We are a passageway to assist in the forgiveness, healing and reconciliation of families."

Parents pay $30,000 per year to enroll their teenagers in the program, according to the Watertown Daily Times in a 2003 story.

Stachowicz said she wanted to visit her sister Lindsey for Lindsey's 18th birthday and thought that as an adult, Lindsey would be free to receive any visitor she wanted, especially a sister.

She also wanted to ask her sister whether she wanted to leave the facility.

"I'm her sister," she said, her voice trembling. "Why couldn't I see my sister? She's 18; she has the right to choose to see me or not and they're saying she can't."

Finlinson said that's not the way it works. "We don't turn people over to people we don't know," he said. "She expects us to roll out the red carpet for her."

He said that when a student turns 18, it's the student's personal choice whether to remain in the program. He said the student's decision is made without any pressure from Academy staff, although they will offer advice if asked.

However, Finlenson said,  if a student chooses to remain in the program after turning 18, all visits must still be approved by the parents.

"Have her (Rachel) come up with her mom and dad and take her out to dinner," Finlinson said.

Ms. Stachowicz said she was eventually allowed to talk with her sister by telephone, but that she could hear an Ivy Ridge staffer on the other end telling Lindsey what to say.

"Don't ever send your kids to a place like this," she said.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 12:03:00 PM »
I hate so say it, and I don't like AIR, but in this case they do have a good point about turning somebody over to someone they don't know.  And it is possible the girl chose to stay and be under the same rules (including parental preclearance of everything) as before).  If that is the case, then AIR did the right thing.  Of course, that begs the question of whether the girl knew she had rights, or if AIR respected them.  Most reputable (and lets not go into that) places don't keep kids past 18, and most of those that do house them separately - even off campus.  AIR may still reek, but not enough here to prove fault.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2006, 12:11:00 PM »
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Of course, that begs the question of whether the girl knew she had rights, or if AIR respected them.


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Ms. Stachowicz said she was eventually allowed to talk with her sister by telephone, but that she could hear an Ivy Ridge staffer on the other end telling Lindsey what to say.


I guess that answers that question.

My only real surprise is that Jay didn't tackle her and give her the ol' pepper-spray-to-the-face trick...
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 12:34:00 PM »
Come on ANON. This 18 year old girl could verify and say: YES, THAT IS MY SISTER. That would not be "turning her over to some UNKNOWN person."
And, she is 18; and not some PROPERTY that is owned by Pepper-Spray-Jay.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »
Worked at AIR 3yrs to long...the way I see it...I know how Jason and the boys operate..Not a pretty picture..all he had to do was contact the parents and ask for Pic ID..better yet why not make a "Permit to Visit" form out and have Driver ID photo copied of all permitted when the child is enrolled.Oh geez that would be to legal. :grin:
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2006, 11:22:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-07 09:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I hate so say it, and I don't like AIR, but in this case they do have a good point about turning somebody over to someone they don't know.  And it is possible the girl chose to stay and be under the same rules (including parental preclearance of everything) as before).  If that is the case, then AIR did the right thing.  Of course, that begs the question of whether the girl knew she had rights, or if AIR respected them.  Most reputable (and lets not go into that) places don't keep kids past 18, and most of those that do house them separately - even off campus.  AIR may still reek, but not enough here to prove fault."

This is exactly how they get away with it. They know exactly how much they can get away with and they can spin the rest to hide what they are really about.

Yes she can leave. Yes it is her decision to stay. But when faced with an Exit Plan and other forms of psychological pressure, how much choice does really have?

But of course the parents and program will defend these underhanded and unethical methods because they are 'helping' this woman, after all.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2006, 11:25:00 PM »
Once again your MOTHER makes a Bad Choice!!!
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