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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 20, 2011, 03:56:19 PM »
Buzz, IP addresses don't mean anything.  Whooter is proxied up and posting because all of the IP addresses he has used in the past are banned.  If IP addresses were effective at identifying a poster, then Whooter would not be here, but we all see he is.  I know this thread is a troll-fest.  It's obvious as hell.  We all know one of Whooter's many aliases is "Mitt Romney" (Whooter even admitted it), so how do you explain Mitt's presence if IP addresses can be used to track posters?  Whooter threw that out as red-herring knowing full well he's proxied up.  It's very basic for people who understand such things.  You're getting your leg pulled, dear.  That notwithstanding, your advice is proper, IMO.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 20, 2011, 03:34:58 PM »
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Iíve ignored the portions of this thread which are who-troll centric in an attempt to interact with you on the level. Your reply to my simple question reads as untruthful. Just an hour ago there were two programs and now suddenly youíve whittled it down to having ruled out blah,blah, blah... The rest of your reply devolves from simply disingenuous to vulgar and inordinately hostile-- especially for someone pleading ignorance whilst feigning an open mind.

You have an odd hobby tandem troll. Iím bored of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wK6fyNA ... re=related

Whooter is actually quite easy to spot.  He's a non-native English speaker and his idiosyncrasies are simple and obvious.  He makes the same grammar and spelling mistakes all the time.  Non-native speakers have problems with the written word, often confusing homonyms, because they lack detailed understanding of the English language and therefore can't discern between uses of words and their spelling.  

Native speakers understand "advice" is a noun and "advise" is a verb, but both "Torn" and "Whooter" bungle this word regularly.  "Torn" got it wrong twice in its last two posts, after claiming to be a "successful college graduate."  Both "Torn" and "Whooter" must coincidentally be Romanians with "troubled teen" daughters I suppose?

Quote from: "TheWho"
I've heard the advise before...
Quote from: "TheWho"
I have received advise to let the legal system teach my kid a lesson...

and..

Quote from: "Torn"
We're going to take the advise of BuzzKill and others...
Quote from: "Torn"
I came here seeking information and advise...

He usually uses spell check (he has stated this before) but spell check doesn't catch obvious grammatical errors like the above.  There are other little quirks that make Whoot-bag easy to spot, but I'll hold onto them for future use.

This thread is nothing more than Whooter trolling and jerking everyone's chains.  Another fake parent with a fake, troubled "sexual active" (sic) daughter (*wink*).  That much is obvious and apparent.

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Open Free for All / Re: BOARD RULES BROKEN?
« on: April 20, 2011, 03:05:52 PM »
It goes beyond simple "rule breaking" here, Frod.  Whooter is banned permanently, yet he continues to post anyway.  Previous trolls were vigorously perma-banned and psy has committed to "ban all future incarnations" of Whooter, but as of yet has failed to do so.  In fairness, he probably isn't yet aware, but when he becomes aware, immediate action needs to be taken.  The gatekeeper is aware and he took only the action of dumping one of my threads into the OFFA while leaving all of Whooter's posts alone.  I reminded him Whooter was banned and openly posting but he still took no action.  Once more it appears rules only apply to survivors and not to industry trolls.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 20, 2011, 10:50:11 AM »
Take it to the admin, Frod.  Lodge a complaint.

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Web forum hosting / Re: Machinations of an Industry Troll (Whooter)
« on: April 20, 2011, 10:31:32 AM »
You are really an asshole, and a stupid one at that.  You don't now, nor will you ever, dictate to me what I will or will not do.  We are clear on that.  You can't bully me, sorry.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 20, 2011, 10:26:18 AM »
Now we're up to four sockpuppets in this fake thread.  How wonderful.  I'm sure everyone really missed this.

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Web forum hosting / Re: Machinations of an Industry Troll (Whooter)
« on: April 20, 2011, 10:20:01 AM »
More sockpuppets coming out of the woodwork.  We had an agreement and you failed to uphold it.  You have no honor.  You were bested, beaten and banned.  Be a man about it (try something new) and stay gone.  Why are you susch a sore loser?  Do you cry about everything in your life this way?

Maybe if you could abide by a simple agreement for some length of time I would reconsider my position, but since you can't, we have to continue your punishment.  First you get in agreement, then we discuss potential rewards for good behavior, not the other way around.  

Stay gone for six months straight and I will reconsider.  If you continue to post, I will never, ever reconsider.  I own the rights to you now and I will exercise them as I see fit.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: April 20, 2011, 09:47:35 AM »
Quote from: "none-ya"
Quote
Anne Bonney wrote:
Mark1986 is Whooter ??


Sure sounds like him.

It is.  And so are two other posters in this thread, the OP and "Brian".

Same shit, different day.  This whole thread is just a Whooter-troll. He's desperate to get reinstated so he can get his fix of revictimizing abuse survivors and promoting programs to which he refers.  If you are unhappy with Whooter's return to trolling Fornits, be sure to PM psy and express yourself.  And don't forget to remind him that Whooter is perma-banned and that he promised to ban "all future incarnations" of Whooter's aliases and sockpuppets.

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Web forum hosting / Machinations of an Industry Troll (Whooter)
« on: April 20, 2011, 09:38:27 AM »
As some of you already know, Whooter is back posting again, this time using three separate identities.  He started a thread posing as a parent in need of advice then sockpuppeted that thread with two other identies.

He is doing this as a vehicle to get around his banning and the evidence of that is a PM he sent me from another of his multiple identities, Mitt Romney.

Quote from: "Mitt Romney"
I saw fornits come to life today for the first time in awhile and it was refreshing to see the old juices flowing again on the old board.  DJ you have not been supporting fornits and have only made 1 post since February.  It doesnt make any sense for me to remain banned if you are not going to post here anymore and support the forum. I think you should make an effort to post here on fornits in support of the forum.  If you are not interested in generating conversation and debate why not move on?  Just a thought.  I will come in and generate some new topics and support a balanced discussion.


...

He then uses his sockpuppet thread as a means to convince psy to reinstate him.  Psy promised to maintain Whooter's ban and to "ban all future incarnations," but has yet to deliver on that promise.

Will Whooter create traffic?  Yes, of course, he will post thousands of times as dozens of posters.  The problem with that is that it is all fake, phony, made up - just like everything Whooter has ever posted.

So now your suspicions are confirmed.  The "new posters" - the troubled parent and the supportive advisors - are all just Whooter doing great disservice to Fornits by creating fake dialogue amongst phony posters.  Credibility is the stock in trade for survivors and adding a bunch of sockpuppets to generate ficticious dialogue works counter to that basic premise.

Now we wil lhave to wait and see if psy grabs his ankles for Whooter in his lust for any traffic, even ficticious trolling, or if he mans up does what he promised he would do.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Did you donate to Japan relief?
« on: April 19, 2011, 12:51:54 PM »
It must burn you up that you can't post and have to pretend to be other people just to feed your obsession with me, huh?  Well, enjoy your pathetic existence, Mr. Phony.  I can only imagine how badly this tortures your petty little ego that I set the trap for you and you stepped in it like a complete moron, as I knew you would.  You likely spend your nights rocking back and forth in front of the PC muttering "DJ...DJ...DJ...I'll get you DJ..."  But you know what?  I got you.   :rofl:  :roflmao:

Your obsession with me is unhealthy.  Time for you to grow up and move on, loser.

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Web forum hosting / Re: Mark1986 is Whooter
« on: April 19, 2011, 12:23:12 PM »
One poster said the other day that they called STICC and asked for John Reuben.  When he got on the phone this person referred to him several times by the handle "Whooter" during their conversation and Reuben kept responding normally, apparently not even noticing because he used the name "Whooter" for so long here.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Did you donate to Japan relief?
« on: April 19, 2011, 12:17:39 PM »
Yes, "Marc" we had a guy here named "Whooter" who did all of those things.  He even made up a whole family, including fake kids, to market as "success stories" from confirmedly abusive programs on this survivor site even after one of his children ODed and died after completing his program.  Strange, huh?  Now he reads here all of time, but isn't permitted to post, so he uses proxy servers and makes up even more fake identities (he has well over 50 usernames here) to sneak in some posts here and there.  He's desperate to become part of something that he isn't allowed because he is a loser that just sits at his PC all day getting paid by the post to offer up program propaganda.  He's a troll.  ...uh...wait a sec..."Marc"...  LOL.

We need a fresh sockpuppet banning and a cleanup in this thread, mods.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Did you donate to Japan relief?
« on: April 19, 2011, 09:46:52 AM »
Hold your horses there, ?????????.  I work in Japan quite frequently and many of my colleagues are in the stricken area.  I set up a matching donation program for my employees here in the States whereby my company would match, dollar for dollar, any donations directly from my employees or donations they brought in from others.  As of yesterday, they raised over $134,000 and we matched it, every penny, totalling over a quarter of a million dollars in relief donations so far.  We're continuing the matching program for another month in the face of a down year for revenue.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: The Whooter Show - Cancelled
« on: April 15, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
Activity is not readability, psy. The presence of trolls makes the forum more active on a posts-per-day basis but less readable when it comes to understanding information.

Precisely my point, PODK.  The analogy goes something like this:

"Concerning dinner, I have good news and bad news.  The bad news is that the food is garbage.  The good news is there's plenty of it."

Buzzkill has a pont, too.  As our industry bogeymen get clobbered and run out of town on a rail we have less to do here.  

Plus, many of us have gone to more "direct drive" activities like politicking, lobbying, contacting state agencies directly and counter-marketing (which I have been very busy doing).  Additionally, there are a lot more social media outlets to use for this purpose.  On top of those facts, many people here have been posting for 6,7,8,9, 10 years or more and have run out of material.  There's not much more to add as this forum becomes a historical archive.  Any question, complaint or argument has been engaged and dissected ad nauseum already.  Many of us don't feel like typing in the same things for the umpteenth time.  Our thoughts are already present in the archives.

If you really want to know what drove away people en masse...it's censorship.  Most of us got sick of our posts being edited, deleted or moved and just take care of our business elswhere where we needn't be fettered by it.

For this forum to be great again like it was prior to Whooter's arrival, some innovation is required.  Same old stale threads in the same old tired forums don't attract new readers and content providers.  That's just the way it is.  If Fornits were a business it would be justifiably going under because it has become passe.  That's not to say it isn't the very best clearinghouse for program information and data - it is.  Unfortunately, that isn't enough to drive traffic.

Having dimwitted assholes like Whooter shitting all over everything and everyone never added value and it never will.  I would wager that the vast majority of people here would peg the decline of Fornits to Whooter's arrival, not his departure.  On its face that notion is a profound absurdity.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: The Whooter Show - Cancelled
« on: April 15, 2011, 06:58:16 AM »
I agree with you, quanat.  The only person who misses Whooter is psy.  I will never agree to allow him back.  He ruined this site and everyone's experience here.  Good riddance to bad garbage.  At least people can post what they want and have it accessible for reading.  I'm sorry, psy, but most people stopped posting and reading because of that idiot.  Now they're starting to come back, but this place was damaged so badly it won't recover fully and many of us now use other venues and tactics for messaging.  You can try to blame me for the"decline of fornits" but nobody buys that but you.

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