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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Greg Leclair Ocala Mechanic
« on: June 03, 2004, 07:03:00 PM »
I'm posting a top secret message now guys, so just go about your business and pretend this isn't a post to respond to a post about a post of which this is not THE post, but simply a post in the form of a post which really doesn't post in the form that you would expect or understand one to post :rofl:  :rofl:  


Open Free for All / Prophecy??
« on: June 02, 2004, 11:15:00 PM »
:lol: Angel-dust, funny pun Anon 2.

Yeah that's neat stuff about the roses and the golden cross.

Are there specific prophecies about Egypt? Where are they in Scripture?

I know about the one that says the gospel will go throughout all the world - which now, with satellite, is actually happening in Middle Eastern countries like Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan etc. - and even China has allowed them in (the Christian programs and satellite access) - so that's pretty freaky that even China let them in! And I always wondered about the "Every eye will see Jesus' return" - but again, after watching the war on television years ago - that's understandable now too.

But still, it's all so freaky to see things happening in the world that I used to study in school! I mean, I honestly thought that if the last-days prophecies were going to happen in my lifetime, that I'd see it come to pass when I was in my seventies or eighties at least - so sad to say, I am a little disappointed that things are happening so quickly around me. And did you know there's been a movement (for years now) to rebuild the Temple in Israel? Scary!

So yeah - it's very thought-provoking to read prophecies like these!

Open Free for All / Sex with Ghosts
« on: June 02, 2004, 10:38:00 PM »
You know, Anon - I've tried several times to respond and each time it turns into this long diatribe, so instead I will simply say this:

God is no respecter of persons. Sin is sin in God's eyes. This means that there is no level of misdemeanor or felony in God's kingdom because all sin is equal. Maybe you think a murderer is worse than a thief, or an adulterer, or especially someone who is impatient or unkind, but to God, they are all sinners! Sin is sin - no levels, no degrees - sin is sin to God!!

So you bring up Sodom and Gomorrah - but you know what I think of? The flood. Because sin is sin in God's eyes! Don't miss that point, Anon!

And last Anon, just for you - my absolute favorite Queer Nation quote:

"We're here! We're queer! We're NOT going skiing!"  :grin:

Open Free for All / Sex with Ghosts
« on: June 02, 2004, 09:30:00 PM »
Yes I do agree that the book does have what could be called extreme (or even radical) views. And despite all of this hassle over that suggestion - I did so because the topic reminded me of the book and vice-versa.

However, the topic, having sex with ghosts could also be called "obscure and extreme" too - which makes this back and forth all the more silly.

And I disagree when you say it wasn't my religion that was attacked. Everyone was treated with tolerance and respect for their suggestion, except of course, for me, who was specifically singled out on points of religion.

So whether you or I think the book is poo or not wasn't the point. It was to tell the poster about this book I read that reminded me of the topic and I left it up to the poster to decide whether they wanted to read the book or not.

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / We are not alone!
« on: May 20, 2004, 08:06:00 PM »
RTP did you know that Scripture says that God's people are aliens to this world?

Seriously, it really says that!

And it also says that the believer's kingdom is a heavenly kingdom. And where is heaven, RTP?

Somewhere OUT THERE in SPACE!!!!!

I'm just messing with you, man. Don't get mad. We aren't here to hurt you, RTP. We only want to colonize your planet. :lol:

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Straight" the movie
« on: May 20, 2004, 07:37:00 PM »
:rofl:  :rofl:

Reefer Madness!

And they're screaming like it's a horror movie because they're "mad" from smoking pot. I remember that one too!

That was made in the fifties, wasn't it?


And how about the "Days of Wine and Roses."
Remember that one? It was about alcoholism and Jack Lemmon starred in it.

Open Free for All / Prophecy??
« on: May 19, 2004, 08:01:00 PM »

I've never heard that one. The world will smell like roses an hour before His return? That's wild!

Especially since his return is supposed to be at Armageddon - which is among both the desert and mountains - so that would be freaky to be smelling roses in the middle of no-where during a battle! Wild.

And that's some interesting prophecies you posted. It reminds me of this special I saw on the History channel (or somewhere), and it included a piece about an American Indian woman who was a prophetess who saw the end-times, but I got the impression she was alive within the last 50 years.

Anyway - thanks for sharing that, Anon! That was very interesting and a good read.   :smile:

Okay verbatim -

a) You invade a country without soldiers with the utilization of spies and their allies. We call them the CIA.  :roll:
b)  Yes, the Revolutionary War was also about freedom - the same freedom that Iraqi's crave - and are entitled to as humans on this planet. And true - the Rev. War was fought within by the people - but they had help. Remember the French and the American Indian? They assisted the effort (although true - neither were "officially" at war with England). And last, I thought there was plenty to compare - and this is why I chose to do so.
c) Do you realize what I just said there? Read it carefully.  :razz:  I'm saying that having the attitude that attacking a country on behalf of the people who are being brutalized, oppressed & murdered because it "isn't our business" is the same attitude that our politicians had during that era. Furthermore, I'm not blaming America for what happened during the holocaust - I'm blaming them for knowing about it - and not doing anything - until they were forced to do something by the Japanese. (We only went after Germany because they were aligned with Japan).
d) Yes I am saying the allies should have stepped in earlier to save the Jews - as again, they knew about it multiple years earlier. In fact, a ship full of Jews tried to find safety here - and our government sent them back! How atrocious!
e) well yes - you probably have a point there. I suppose it is always easier to look back and say this or that should have been done and maybe you're right - maybe they really couldn't have done anything for the Jews sooner - and perhaps I'm just being jaded and biased toward our government for reasons I'm sure you understand. But it irritates me - knowing that they knew - and then dragged their feet. But that's so true, your last sentence. I suppose I'm just being harsh - believing the worse of the leaders of that time - when, for all I know, people could have been physically sick about not being able TO help sooner. I suppose that's something I should learn about a little more - before I speak up.

Some examples of mean & nasty:

"Are you serious? Trying to draw a comparison between the two is just stupid."

"I guess if you want people to think that we're all a bunch of impulsive tongued nitwits than he was right on."

"Just sounds really opinionated and irrational of you."

"Why do you always sound like a total fanatic when you mention anything regarding Christianity?"


"Justifying to yourself why it's okay to judge another human being's pain." [Which actually, you are doing when you argue whether we've suffered more or less than these prisoners - AND when you criticize Richard for making the quote]

"If you want people to listen to you, you have to be credible."

"I'm not being nasty, I'm just being blunt. Maybe it's the way you're taking it?"

"Stop trying to point fingers and just accept when someone disagrees with you."


And I'm saying that to compare the two (in my opinion) IS just and warranted.

It's funny - we are arguing the exact same points - only from opposite sides of the fence.

And yet - I haven't criticized you even once, whereas you have criticized me multiple times!

Furthermore, I'm surprised that you would be so passionate about the treatment of these prisoners - while being so nasty to me.

In case you forgot, I'm a human being too.

Whoa! So you got Ross right after he left St. Pete!

I was there when he was being "trained" by Miller Newton.

What was his style like in KY? Did he ever rage out on you in Executive Raps and then storm out, raging that the group was doing poorly? (Newton did that in Florida) - and after I watched the Va. Directors - (who Newton also taught), do the same thing - I was just wondering if it was a style that was utilized by Ross too? Do tell! Do tell!

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / "Straight" the movie
« on: May 17, 2004, 08:42:00 PM »
I remember seeing it after Straight.  :flame: There I was sitting in my parent's living room - and Nancy Reagan came on television and introduced Miller Newton's book. It was a double-whammy, especially since it was only about a year after Fred's trial.

And I believe this is the period that Wes' book refers to when he quotes one of Reagan's drug czars as saying that thousands of telephone calls came into the White House looking for information about the Straight program.

You said "all the reasons the U.S. gave for going to war with Iraq was false and unproven." Was it?

Quite personally the fact that women aren't being rounded up and raped and brutalized by Sadam's sons, et. al. anymore is reason enough to go to war. Have you any idea what it's like to be a woman living in the middle east? So who cares about the weapons of mass destruction which, according to rumor - are on ships at sea, all I really care about is that we liberated some people from a madman. Isn't that enough?

And as far as the abuse - let's compare:

*Children have killed themselves post-program and it was WAY more than one (although if a prisoner was murdered, the soldiers responsible should go to prison or the chair - agreed).
*(Who is your source for the ejaculation report?)
And that happened in the program too - with boys on boys. I've got a bevy of disgusting stories that make that look like a day in the park
*Acted out sodomy - how lovely - numerous boys were RAPED by other boys; at least one female survivior claims she was raped by a male staff member; and for your information RICHARD QUIT Straight and began a one-man protest of the program because a female staff member was raping female participants and no one at Straight would put an end to it!! Did you know that?!
*The man with the electrodes was NOT hooked up to anything - they used the same lying FEAR tactics that were used on us kids - and please keep in mind that the guy who they did that too is a freaking terrorist and getting what he dished out to his fellow man (not that this makes it right - just making a point that this is a murderer who would gladly cut your throat if given the opportunity)
*Naked on top of each other - that was done because they wanted to humiliate them - and because nudity like that is against their religion. That is soldiers being a-holes and it's wrong - agreed. But we were forced to shower with other females - and I was at an age when I wasn't exposed to such openness - I went to Christian school - and they think about nudity the same as the Muslims; and again - others were touched and molested in the program - only they didn't have any pictures to prove it.
*The prisoners get as much sleep as any other prisoner in an American jail; the cells have toilets; a prisoner is a prisoner and yes, I do think we give them adequate medical attention. I sat in jail watching a heroin addict withdraw in front of me and they didn't do a damn thing for her - so please cry me a river about the way the Iraqis are treated - our own Americans are being beaten and raped every day - why aren't you shouting about them? And the boy in Straight who had 2 broken ribs that had healed when he was taken for treatment for the 3rd broken rib - HE did not get adequate treatment - nor did ANY of us who were in the program. I have multiple stories about this - and I witnessed a lot in this regards too.

And yes - I do think our anguish has been worse than theirs. I was a pot smoker and a child. They are adult terrorists who murder people for the sheer joy of taking out an "American infidel." How could you possibly compare a child to an adult terrorist? Of course it was worse for us!

Who am I? I'm an American citizen who watched in horror as my fellow citizens perished at the hands of people you're feeling pity for.

Sure, prisoners shouldn't be mistreated - but let's not forget who the prisoners are. WE were children - and THEY are adults who choose to be terrorists, and plot to murder YOU AND ME!

Opinionated and irrational? I was joking when I said Texas or New Jersey - and you know I was referring to the program - but I see your point and I'll make sure in the future I keep looky-loos in mind before I speak.

And last Lezli - are you aware that Richard shut the Straight program down? Shouldn't you be fanning him with palms - rather than trying to hang him on a cross?

You may not agree with Richard's methods - but damn it - he's gotten the attention, hasn't he? As far as I'm concerned - he did it right the first time around - so I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing this time too. I support him 100% and I'm eager to see how it all unfolds!

Richard is a hero in my book. And I mean that both literally as well as figuratively.

How many of those Iraqi prisoners have permanent damage that causes physical pain? Cause I'm going on 22 f-n years and counting!

And speaking of those prisoners - they were conspiring to kill Americans - and that's why they're being detained. They're terrorists.

Were any of them sleep-deprived or beaten for days on end? Were they forced to sit in their own urine or feces? Did they put diapers on them and force them to sit in cribs? Did they put them in four-point restraints and rip their arms out of their sockets? Did they sit on them until their ribs broke?

Don't for a second say those f-n Iraqi's have it worse off than those of us that were in Straight.

Richard was RIGHT ON with his comment!!

(Besides - the soldiers that did that were probably from New Jersey or Texas).  :roll:

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the Miss Chris
« on: May 16, 2004, 12:54:00 AM »
Virginia broke off on October 28, 1982, and as I recall, Sarasota, Cincinatti, and Atlanta were all established already by the time Virginia broke off. But I don't think Orlando existed yet. I think they broke off in 83 or 84.

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