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The Melting Pot / Re: Count to 1 million
« on: September 13, 2009, 07:18:50 PM »
It takes about 173 years for all the water in Lake Superior to be changed

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Ajax, your posts are getting shorter which means (I am hoping ) that you are trying to spend more time with your son.  A little advice would be to try to turn off the computer and the TV and just listen to what he has to say.  Talk to him about his week coming up at school.  It goes by so quickly.  Dont let the AARC rage get to you and ruin your relationship with your son.

@JD:  Try to call your son (The one that is alive)

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To JD: Sorry if you have to endure ajaxs outbursts. He has been proven wrong using his own argument again and he is lashing out. Hopefully he will settle down and spend some time with his kid before school tomorrow. JD? Have you called your son yet? Ajax would appreciate some feedback. It might help him with his problem

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Quote from: "ajax13"
Every minute you spend posting on Fornits JD, is one you could have spent trying to re-establish a relationship with the one son you didn't kill.  One more year lost now, JD.

JD, Did you hear that?  I am not sure JD is getting all of these messages of yours, Ajax.  You might want to shoot a few messages off to his website.  On another note you should heed your own advice and spend some time with your own kid.  Your son is presently at the 25th percentile, acting out in school and exposed to porn and who knows what else with a father who responds to frustration with personal attacks.  Your child has a tough road ahead.  You and JD may end up having more in common than you think one day.  Keep an eye on your little one or you may lose him.  The clock is ticking Ajax.

So it seems we agree that the connection Evans has to AARC is a none issue in the eyes of the media.  The papers just dont seem to think it is important enough to mention.. even after several articles with differing vantage points explored.

Now get back in there with your son... and JD if you are listening, work on it too.

Ahhh, if this works out I may become a life coach.  I think I am pretty good at resolving stuff.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
Your opinion may be that the connection of Evans and other violent criminal graduates of AARC to the facility is not relevant and that is why it is not mentioned in news stories.  That is however, in contradicition to what I have heard directly from reporters, both in Vancouver and in Calgary.  That's why, you lazy fuck, you ought to try talking to those people yourself.  Your kid isn't getting any less dead JD, and every day you spend on Fornits is one you could have spent reconciling with the one you didn't kill.

Ha,Ha,Ha  Ajax13's change of life only lasted a few hours.  He is back to his name calling when frustrated lol.  I feel a little bad for JD, though, because he is taking the brunt of it recently instead of Vause.
So, Ajax, you think that Evans story is relevant but that the journalists just keep forgetting to include it in their story.  Hmmm.  Keep telling yourself that Ajax!!  or maybe it is another conspiracy?  That may work.  But please dont take this out on your son again and start yelling at him too and ignoring him and exposing him to porn.  You were doing so well there for a day or two.  Go back to sitting with him while he does his homework.

In the mean time if you really want to believe that the connection of Evans to AARC is important and relevant but the journalist keep forgetting to mention this fact then live it up and believe it.  We will support you if it makes you feel better.  But I have to tell you that when I spoke to them they felt the connection didnt warrant mentioning that is why it was never reported.
You should go back to calling Vause "thewiz" and asking why he went back to college... you were better at that.  Just ask the question over and over again.. maybe 20 times and then go yell at you kid!!!

To JD:  Sorry if you have to endure ajaxs outbursts.  He has been proven wrong using his own argument again and he is lashing out.  Hopefully he will settle down and spend some time with his kid before school tomorrow.  JD?  Have you called your son yet?  Ajax would appreciate some feedback.  It might help him with his problem.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
.... journalists report facts that are relevant.  

I have to agree with Ajax13 on this.  It seems the journalists are aware of Evans past but feel it isnt relevant to the story and therefore wasnt included.

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Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, my son's average in school was over 80% last year.   He's also a successful athlete, and is regarded as a leader among his peers.  One of your son's is dead because you didn't  do your job JD, and your other son is estranged from you.  My goal was to bring to light what I view to be an an unlawful and dangerous entity.  Regardless of why it happened, it has happened.  You on the other hand, have managed to accomplish nothing on Fornits, unless you really did want to set yourself referral business up to be shut down to punish yourself.  It's not too late for you to call your live son, JD.

Its good you are trying to encourage JD to connect with his son, Ajax13.  Keep at it but dont be too tough on him he may have already done it.  Letís let him speak for himself.  Remember it has only been a few days since you turned yourself around and started spending time with your child.  You mentioned your sons average was over 80% last year but we both know you had trouble in this area.  You were confusing 85% success with 85% failure rate.  Lets not try to get too excited about his progress.   You should just stay focused with spending time with him, like I had mentioned.  I can almost guarantee that his grades will come up to above passing if you continue on the path you are on... cut out the porn, especially in front of him and donít ridicule him when you donít understand what he is saying to you.
 
The 80% goal is a good one but done pressure him too much, just stay the course.  I like the fact that you are becoming more goal oriented and relying on facts and figures more.  This is good...

I think I missed my calling!!!

To JD:  If you are catching any of this try posting a "hey" to Ajax13.  He has started spending time with his kid and wants to share the feeling with you.  He would appreciate some feed back.

Dont get ahead of yourself.  I admit that the two of them are talking and focusing on their kids again.  But you are far from a counselor, but you did good.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, my son's average in school was over 80% last year.   He's also a successful athlete, and is regarded as a leader among his peers.  One of your son's is dead because you didn't  do your job JD, and your other son is estranged from you.  My goal was to bring to light what I view to be an an unlawful and dangerous entity.  Regardless of why it happened, it has happened.  You on the other hand, have managed to accomplish nothing on Fornits, unless you really did want to set yourself referral business up to be shut down to punish yourself.  It's not too late for you to call your live son, JD.

Its good you are trying to encourage JD to connect with his son, Ajax13.  Keep at it but dont be too tough on him he may have already done it.  Letís let him speak for himself.  Remember it has only been a few days since you turned yourself around and started spending time with your child.  You mentioned your sons average was over 80% last year but we both know you had trouble in this area.  You were confusing 85% success with 85% failure rate.  Lets not try to get too excited about his progress.   You should just stay focused with spending time with him, like I had mentioned.  I can almost guarantee that his grades will come up to above passing if you continue on the path you are on... cut out the porn, especially in front of him and donít ridicule him when you donít understand what he is saying to you.
 
The 80% goal is a good one but done pressure him too much, just stay the course.  I like the fact that you are becoming more goal oriented and relying on facts and figures more.  This is good...

I think I missed my calling!!!

To JD:  If you are catching any of this try posting a "hey" to Ajax13.  He has started spending time with his kid and wants to share the feeling with you.  He would appreciate some feed back.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, pick up that phone and call your son that you haven't killed yet.

This has been one of the better few days of posting I have had in awhile.  I have been able to get Ajax13 to start spending time with his son... you will note Ajax13 sat with his son yesterday while he was doing his homework.  There hasnt been any indication that Ajax13 was watching porn at the time.  Then we notice that this new found fatherly instinct has being getting Ajax13 to start spreading it around.  He is encouraging JD to call his son and spend time with him.  It contagious isnt it Ajax13?  JD if you are listening you should follow Ajax13's lead on this one.

I am willing to wager that if you keep this up your son stops acting out in school.  Keep us updated on how it is going.  You will make a great father someday if you continue on this path.

Wow, I know how a counselor feels when progress has been made.  Its a good feeling

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Quote from: "anonAARCgrad"
This "guest" is a fool. Ajax has had a remarkable effect on what is going on at AARC. They are on their heels, trying to defend the indefensible. He swayed me, a one time true believer. AARC is in deep trouble, and while it may not close, it is going to be scrutinized  - finally - by some members of the media, politicians and the police.  :shamrock:

Seems you are the fool, AnonAARCGrad.  If you had bothered to follow Ajax's rants about nothing you would know. Have you ever read Psy's, Ursus',  Try another castles, Jill ryans, (just to name a few) arguments?  They argue their point with facts and debate back and forth.  Do you think the media, politicians or police really care if Vause played hockey or not. Do you think they care if people are overweight or that Ajax never bothered to understand Statistics.  Do you think the police sit and wonder Why thewiz chose to go back to school late in life?  These were Ajax's arguments.... He cheers from the sidelines and if his team wins then he will feel part of something big at best.  If AARC does go down it will be their own undoing not anyone elses and if they grow and continue they can take credit also.

My neighbors uncle has spent a lifetime bad mouthing Chrysler corporation because he got stuck with a lemon in the 1960's and he thinks he is responsible for the companies down turn because of the letters he wrote them and his fight against them.  There is no harm done letting him believe he caused it just like you and Ajax can feel you had an effect also.  It will be a good feeling for you if it happens.... but dont fool yourselves.

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I have watched your MO, Ajax.  For years you post on here claiming that you are making an effect on AARC to no avail.  You argue for days on end with yourself about Vauses weight, his hockey career, his son and question why he went back to school.  But these are all personal things.  You brought no facts to the table regarding the program  Why is that?  The one area you seemed to want to argue was AARCís study, but you never took the time to learn even the most basic concepts of statistics so you resorted to repetitive questioning which made you look like an idiot.  Your questions didnít apply to the subject matter and therefore exposed you.  That is why I came over to visit you.  I answered your questions and slowly moved you towards a more fact based argument.

Now you are obsessed with this guy JD and his family.  Some guy who doesnít even post here or reads here probably (just like Vause).  Is this what you do, avoid anything factual and spew your anger at individuals who donít even read your rants?  Is this the way you treat your son when he acts out in school?  Make fun of him, his physical flaws and laugh at him because he likes flowers over Hockey?  I can see why people confront you.  If you stopped abusing your son the way you do I donít think you would have this need to self purge by attacking people you donít know on the internet.  Be a man, talk to AARC directly and this guy JD if it helpsÖ. And lastly speak and listen to your son directly and stop abusing him.  He needs you at his age.

Think about it.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, what's the end here for you?  Your activities on Fornits are going to come back onto your referral business.  You have one living son with whom you could establish some kind of relationship, but your time is spent vainly trying to disrupt the discourse on Fornits.  The facts about AARC are coming out now, one way or another, so you have failed to do whatever it was you were trying to do here.  The programs with which you are tragically familiar will not survive or perish because of anything you do on Fornits.  My son is sitting beside me doing his homework JD, where is your son?

If anything good came out of this discussion it is your realization that anything you have said did not have an effect on the future of AARC.  If it lives it lives if it dies it dies.  nothing you can do about it Ajax13.
What will be interesting to see is if you start utilizing more facts against AARC or whether you continue the track you were on before this discussion.  Personally I hope you start spending more time with your kid and if there is any truth to the porn that you leave it for when your son isnt home.   That stuff isnt right for kids and you should know better

I hope that JD can do the same and spend more time with his son that is left, continue to build his business and be happy.

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Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, what's the end here for you?  Your activities on Fornits are going to come back onto your referral business.  You have one living son with whom you could establish some kind of relationship, but your time is spent vainly trying to disrupt the discourse on Fornits.  The facts about AARC are coming out now, one way or another, so you have failed to do whatever it was you were trying to do here.  The programs with which you are tragically familiar will not survive or perish because of anything you do on Fornits.  My son is sitting beside me doing his homework JD, where is your son?

You and JD get the Shitty parents award hands down.  The funny thing is neither one of you has ever attended a program. Both of you go fuck yourselves.

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I have been reading along here and would like to add something:

This was a couple of years ago
Quote from: "ajax13"
I can understand some parents looking for help for their kids.  but what I dont agree with is when parents look outside their family for help.  Kids belong at home no matter what.  I have a son who is acting out sexually at school.  He is in the third grade and the school counselor wants me to have him see an independent psychologist.  But I feel it is not that big a deal as they make it out to be.  I have been working with him and he is getting better.  Most school counselors dont know what they are talking about


Last month:
Quote from: "ajax13"
I believe people have the right to do what they want in their own household and no one has the right to interfere with that.  I often watch pornography in the house.  This isnít illegal and isnít hurting anyone and my son has seen it before.  I try to keep it to a minimum but dont believe others should tell me what to do.  Its my house and I decide what is crossing the line.

Last week:
Quote from: "ajax13"
Sorry, I have to run, my son is having trouble at school again. He comes first in my life so I will continue with you at a later time.  hold that thought

See, Ajax13, what you dont understand is the reason your son is acting out sexually at school is because you expose him to porn.  Dont you see a trend here?  I warned you a couple of years ago and now your son is acting out.   This is abuse and if the authorities find out what you do at home,  with him watching your movies with you, you are going to go to jail and possibly lose your son.  You are sick and should try to focus on your own family instead of Dean Vauses.

Ajax13, heal thyself!!!

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Quote from: "ajax13"
JD, since you killed your son, you can't have contact with him at all, moderated or not.  Your mania, stupidity, ignorance and laziness seem to be in an epic battle for dominance.  Who will win JD?  Will your next post be shameful because it's rooted in stupidity, ignorance, laziness or your inability to think rationally when your compulsions are driving you?

why are you obsessed with this JD guy?  It isnt going to help you keep your son or erase what you do to him each night.  We both know that yet you keep throwing personal attacks at other people hoping the pain will go away.

You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

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