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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Seed: 12/71-03/73
« on: July 07, 2009, 01:58:31 PM »
I saw on another thread you are looking at a class action. I'm a lawyer (FL) with some CA experience and I'm interested - will do pro bono work on this. Would you contact me by email through this site? I'll take the risk of being contacted by the forum trolls and harassed.  

The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Class Action Filing
« on: July 03, 2009, 07:08:45 PM »
That's a good question.  Who is the lawyer or firm?

The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: legal options
« on: July 03, 2009, 06:44:47 PM »

Stop that.  Are you scared of being sued or are you just being nasty for the sake of being nasty?

The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Seed: 12/71-03/73
« on: July 03, 2009, 06:35:37 PM »
Quote from: "stack jones"
warrant you fucking brainwashed cunt.

may your children get hit by a school bus on the way home from school, so you know true pain.

Hey Stack,
You are right, it was a horrible fucking place (Ft. Lauderdale 73-74).  I don't think there was much difference from one Seed to the next.  I was there; you were there; the owners were there; and the staff members  were there, too.  And I can't think of an instance, not then and not on this discussion board, where one of the tyrants ever acknowledged that they thought about what they were doing and saying.  I can't recall reading anything on the discussion boards, but if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know.

It took me about 35 years to understand how really fucking angry I was about what happened to me and another year or two beyond that dredge it all up and come to terms with all of it.  Be glad you are not among those poor Seed bastards who have never found the need to evolve beyond that  programming. Maybe later, much later, it might be easier to hate them less and pitty them more.  

There probably won't be Truth and Reconcilliation Commission for The Seed, Inc., but there ought to be.   I'm here for you.  Stripe

The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Seed: 12/71-03/73
« on: May 08, 2009, 05:59:40 PM »
Quote from: "Liberty Seed"
Ok maybe I'm blind but my experience at The Seed saved my life.  I was 14 in 1972 and had died and been brought back from an overdose.  Sure The Seed was no Hilton but neither were the streets.  The difference was, for me, people cared whether I lived or died.  I'm a much better person for the 9 months I spent there (on the 3 month program).  Where is Art today?  Is he still with us?  I personally would like to thank him.   Liberty

Liberty Seed:

I'm no fan of Art Barker or his wife, but last I knew they lived over in the Venetian Isle section of Ft. LAuderdale. Not too shabby.  You can check the property tax records for Broward County - there might be a tax bill in his name or Suzy's name or some tax-free foundation's name that he's associated with.  The guy made a good living off the tax exempt business model.  Don't ever forget:  it was just a BUSINESS.  It was about dollars and control.  


The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Seed or CIA?
« on: January 27, 2009, 04:02:00 PM »
Hi.  I got nothing but....

Back in 2005 I filed a FOIA request with the FBI for its records on Art Barker and The Seed.  The response I received was that information, if any, would not be released until Art Barker was dead.  I have my response letter I'm waiting to make that request again.

I never pursued a FOIA on the The Seed program by itself.  Maybe it's time to try that.


The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: I heard ART retired
« on: November 25, 2008, 02:59:33 PM »
Q. How many Seedlings does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A. One to screw it in, the other 39,999 to sodomize and incestualize each other; pissing, scatting, rusty trumpeting, dirty sanchezing, flute slurpeling, pussy scatting, cocksmoking, cumming, kicking, confronting, marathoning, felating, puking violently, punching, spitting, felching, farting and just generally hurting one another while the one poor fucker tries to get the lightbulb in. The paid staff has to get involved in all of this while the one seedling is screwing in the lightbulb.

It's been a while since I saw this, but this is still funny.   Think about that poor bastard screwing in the light bulb amid all this hubub and dismay.  Poor bastard.

The Seed Discussion Forum / Cool seed advertisement
« on: November 07, 2007, 04:54:40 PM »
3) The seed of hope docudrama is mentioned and WE STILL DON"T HAVE A COPY OF IT! DOOH! (homer simpson voice) However, we have a trail as it mentioned who produced it...WTVJ channel 4 miami. Anyone down there willing to do some leg work and find these archives and retrieve a copy? if so I will make copies available to interested parties at my expense for those who have participated in this forum.

Well, I can't do right away but in a few weeks I will be more than happy to devote the time it will take.

Let It Bleed / More on mercury
« on: October 23, 2007, 09:32:18 PM »

Let It Bleed / Possible causes for ADD ADHA
« on: October 23, 2007, 09:00:57 PM »
Okay, please just consider this.  I don't know how old your children are, but I am guessing that you both had your children vaccinated sometime after 1990 otherwise, you would not be speaking in terms of IEP's and school meetings, and teachers, etc.  

Most folks are not aware of the levels of mercury used in the childhood (MMR, DPT, etc.) vacines.  If my memory serves me correctly, it's used as a preservative in the vaccine.  

I had my son (age 26 now) vaccinated starting in 1982 and he was pretty much finished with all of the "requireds" by 1984/1985. I think we were able to sneek by on the last round of shots until he got busted at college this term.

Anyway, the point is, in the mid to late 1980's (85-87) was when "they" started using mercury as a preservative. Now I'm writing just from memory so  please do your own research on this.  

Check out the most common symptoms of mercury poisoning.  You may be surprized.  Heck if you are willing to forego the drug treatment the physicians are recommending for your kids and seek alternatives, look into what might be the root cause fist.

Chelation therapy might help - and that can be done either by blood cleaning or with supplements or both.  Much depends, I think, on the toxicity level of the metal(s) involved.  Senator Kennedy (not Teddy) has done some great work on this issue.  check out the research and good luck.  I hope this is somewhat helpful.


Open Free for All / THE SHRUB
« on: October 09, 2007, 11:09:49 AM »
I nominate Betty AND Mel Sembler.

Feed Your Head / Im sorry. It's funny
« on: September 28, 2007, 04:31:19 PM »
Hi 3X,  

Yeah, that's pretty funny. Least I think it's funny. And the melody is so catchy, don't you think?  That Chris-guy could use some lotion....

I been good - no crises - heck not even any little bumps. the string broke on the weedwacker and my summer garden failed - producing one small yellow squash valued at $47.83 - not to mention labor...That's the way I like it.  

Oh! Hey I do have some good news. I found find a little baby kitten the other morning last month so now I have a new kitty named Kittymus Prime. Since I found the kitty in the street my husband has taken to telling people I trash-picked my new pet.  Well, I 'spose that's the truth.  He says he's just being HONEST but I think he's  running program on me trying to wear me down and keep me on the front row.... :roll:


Feed Your Head / Im sorry. It's funny
« on: September 28, 2007, 01:16:32 PM »
This guy needs a serious eyebrow wax.  That bic razor treatment is just not at all attractive.  It should take some lessons from the movie studio champ and rub the lotion on its skin....

Not really sure how to put the You Tube movie in here, but click and watchand maybe some good soul will be able to load it up directly.


Personally, that's been my contention for quite a while. Trying to live a life "recovering" from something - who the hell knows. Problematic to say the least. I pretty sure my parents would not have opted to treat a broken arm by amputation, but that's pretty much what the "cure" amounted to for me. Perhaps a bit over the top as analogies go, but I think the point is fairly clear.  

So many of the kids who passed through the warehouse doors were never broken in the first place.  For others, like yourself, there was NO WAY drug rehab programming could have ever addressed or helped you repair the harm inflicted on you by other people.  But there was money to be made and lives to saved.  

Thirty some years have passed and It's not any different now - unless you consider the fact that there are professionals who can apparently make money on all aspects of the programs - site purchasing, building construction and refurbishment, referral, enrollment, transport/kidnapping and even deprogramming.  Actually, as hard it is to recall the events and all of the emotion and other poo that goes along with remebering, this site is a pretty cool place to start to work it out. I was in FTL on SR 84 sarting 3/73 and involved I think maybe a year - maybe less.  


The Troubled Teen Industry / New Case Against Sue Scheff
« on: August 07, 2007, 12:01:31 PM »
David Leacock, attorney in Jupiter, FL filed a lawsuit on behalf of Scott Green and Michelle Green, Plaintiffs.

The suit names as Defendant:
Susan L. Scheff
Parents Universal Resource Experts, Inc.
Focal Point Academy, LLC
Glen Horlacher
and Boyd Hooper

Case was filed in Broward County, FL  
Case filed 7/31/2007
Case No.  06 2007-CA 18185 AXXXCE

Case is before Judge Leroy H. Moe

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