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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Where are you?Richardson class?
« on: December 20, 2004, 06:48:00 PM »
Hellow Angie,
This is Valorie. I hung out w/ you guys when I left the program. I am glad to hear you are still around. I have been trying to find Ellen Savage. Have you heard from her? How is Anita and Bill? So many straightlings are a still a part of my life including my husband who I met at straight. Hope life is well where you are. Love to hear more from you.

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OH MY GOD!!!!
Are you sure? That blows my mind. I had not heard that. Is this Morli???
Let me know if you find anything on that. I would love to read it.

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I would most definately go. There are at least a hundred people I could name that I would like to catch up with.
Sandy Strawn, Ellen Savage, Theresa Patterson, Jennifer Purdy, Laura Andree, Carmen York, BOB SHREVE, Andy Bomburger, Burk Jackson, Jennifer Loar, Leslie Wright, Betsy Denser, Allison Boggs, Kathy David, Bobby Gilbert, Angie,Anita, & Bill Nations, Brett Stockelman, Tim Savell, Becca Parum, Marilee Kossac, Chris Cox & Family, Shelly Beavers, Lori Barnes, Doug Irwin, Jeff Dodd, Brad Maisel, Kelly Clark,Stacy Eliff, Lori Means, Stacy Trailer, Leslie Eberstein, Amy Ebersole, Brett (car wreck), Kim Gent, Shannon & Barry Adelman, Scott Ladd, Justin Pettycrew, Robbie Pettygrew, Mike Wellam, Todd Tucker, Todd Townley, James Hardy, Bob Birdman, Cesar Venegoni, man the pressure, so many names are on the tip of my tonge and I can't spit them out. Anyways, I would go. I would also LOVE to see a lot of the parents. Especially the Caughy's and the Cox's and the Loar's I think they were my favorites. The Savage's too, but I heard they split, but I love em any way.
Lay off the harshness Anon- you are haranging the person who threw this out anonomously and you are posting anon. too. Don't whine about being bold if you can't be. Ya big crybaby!!! ::mecry::  
Just funnnin, don't even know ya but come on!!!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Timmy , Val, Chris and Todd
« on: April 06, 2004, 03:38:00 PM »
Are you rich and single???? ::kiss::
Then yes, I remember you fondly. I felt drawn to you from the moment I saw you.

If not, sorry no recollection....

Seriously, the name rings a bell but I cannot put a face to it. E-mail me or call me directly, my agent Mr.Kemp has my #. The call is only $1.99 per minute so I won't keep you long.  :lol: HA/HA
Really call me.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / DALLAS PEOPLE WHERE YOU BE?
« on: April 03, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »
Who are you carmel? I thought I knew but now I am confused by your dates.
Jane from Dallas, How about more info? I was in straight Dallas, in the Richardson Building. Went in in Oct. of 87' left Nov. 89'.  Sandy Strawn was on Sr. Staff w/ Jeff Spearman, Sherri & Cameron Riley were on Exec. Staff. LOOOOOOOOOONG Time Ago. I married a straight guy and have been married for 8 1/2 years. Made it to 5th phase left came back and then walked. Mr. Dorghtery called me 2 weeks later begging me to come back in to a 1 week 5th phase phase review and I would be back on the side of group. I said NO THANKS :wave: BYE BYE.....
That was about a month after they moved to the new building in Irving.
Valorie Townley here! (formerly HOLT)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Dealing with Steve Brooks
« on: April 01, 2004, 08:11:00 PM »
I choose not to vote at all. I will be the greatest pussy of them all. I recall a verse in holy scripture that says "let he who has no sin cast the first stone". None of you sadistic fools can honestly say that nothing you have ever done has ever done damage of any kind to someone. We do things everyday that hurt people, effect them forever in a good or bad way. Should you be judged on how it was perceived or intended????? Your intention is irrelevent!!!!!! I KNOW Straight screwed up my head!! I will probably be medicated the rest of my life. I think there were many people who hurt others there and they, before then, were victims themselves. Timmy, If you want to talk shit to me you can, I am a big girl I can take it and I will still respect you in the morning. :em:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Timmy , Val, Chris and Todd
« on: March 29, 2004, 03:04:00 PM »
hello all,
I just had the chance to get on here and say a little bit. I just wanted to confirm that I am friends w/ Timmy, I drove Timmy to Dallas to make his deal w/ Jennifer, visit Jason and my family. I went to Jason's party, VERY out of my relm, but I did get to see Jason.(looked good)
I do not listen to that kind of music. I told Timmy on the way home that I was terrified that I was going to be the virgin - virgin sacrifce at the party because of all the weird things I had heard about Jason. They are not all true. (DONT MEAN TO RUIN YOUR REP JASON - HE IS REAL BAD THOUGH) I stayed for an hour, freaked out completely because they were smokin' weed in the kitchen. I swear to god.... I held my breathe I was so freaked.
I remember Jennifer a little. We didn't get along great, but I do recall how I loved her folks. I remember laying on the trampoline in the back yard on third phase w/ Jennifer talking about what comes after Straight. I remember going to meetings, jamming to White Lion, whom I still listen to, and I remember the Blazer she got and the day she hit a cat. I laughed and she cried.
I have some bad memories, and I have some good memories. I have been thru therapy, and have had a difficult time finding my place in this world. All I can say is that no one in straight has offended me to the point that I wish them dead. I made some wonderful friends!!! I found some people to admire, characteristics that I hope I have and some I still hope to attain. When I spoke to Jennifer about our visit I sensed the hesitancy in her voice. I don't blame her. If she truely carries guilt around w/ her and is aware of anything that she may have done that was wrong she has every right to be guarded. I have no problem meeting anyone from Straight. I hurt NO ONE!!! of this I am sure, except maybe Carmen York. I apologized to her though and we are friends now. Anyways, I am so open to the possibility that my next best friend may have purple hair and black fingernails. I am not perfect, why should anyone else be. I seek only those that have some grasp of moral lines that cannot be crossed and a self worth that no one can take away with out a fight.
Jennifer, please call me......

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 18, 2004, 09:58:00 AM »
Would that be Chris Cherry???
Who is lisa 91????
This is Valorie Holt.....
As for your final comment Antigen... I don't think it is as simple as A. or B. I think it is more of what you know of don't know. Good, bad or indifferent, Straight showed some of us that our lives were spiraling out of control. When you are surrounded by drug addicts and you like drugs the consequences of your actions don't seem so real. EVERYONE is doing it. No one is around to show you the alternative. I just feel that in Kims situation she was miles away from any rational living creatures. All she had was crowds of drug addicts that made her feel a part of something, anything. As humans we are not created to exist alone, it is against nature for us to be alone and unfortunately for her she was left to be a part of the drug addicts because Straight did not provide a haven of support or friends for her to turn to or depend on. Her ONLY choice was given to her when they booted her out. I realize that we all have a knowledge of right and wrong, but if no one is there to push you in the right direction than you usually go in the one you know best. Does any of that make sense? It's like the path we are used to has such high walls on either side that to get off that path there must be someone on top to help or offer assistance of some kind. Does anyone pick up what I am puttin' down????

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 17, 2004, 04:03:00 PM »
To reply to antigen's question as to if anyone has dropped a line or not. I have tried to stay in touch w/ no luck. I have left a name and number many times w/ no luck. I am sure her grandmother is not sure who I am for sure. I don't know why for sure she is in jail or when she will be getting out. I would love to hear from her. I don't blame straight for her situation as I have stated before. What I am saying is that just because the court order expired they didn't have to disown her. There should have been something in the way of a support system for those in that position. I would love to save her, I am not that strong, but I hate the thought that she doesn't know how I feel about her.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Taboo
« on: March 14, 2004, 08:55:00 PM »
you guys really need to get a life. I cannot believe how stupid it is in here sometimes. Life is soooo full of crap, why in the world would you come in here looking to start something w/ a complete stranger. Did you notice he was new to all this. Perhaps you could be a little more polite and welcome him into the group. Hey Therion, call me. Oh, never mind, I better say that in private!!!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 13, 2004, 10:17:00 PM »
Well said Amy!!
I think the total point once completely broken down is very simple. You don't drag someone up out of the gutter, show them a better life and then throw them back to the crap they came from. I think it just shoves them farther down into the dispair of their misfortune. The tourture of straight was and could never be what she had to endure once she left the safety of those four walls and friendships.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Therions Picture
« on: March 12, 2004, 06:03:00 PM »
yea Therion,  get some help
I'll pitch in for your treatment at the new straight for adults.  :lol:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 12, 2004, 05:57:00 PM »
Not that anyone is to blame here. As I stated before, she lived what she had been taught, what she lived. She came in very young and had allready been shooting up. What in the hell chance did anyone looking at her situation think was going to happen. Not that I think that was even considered when they kicked her to the curb. They talked about how they cared sooooooo much, but the minute that the funds weren't there, neither was the client. and fuck'em when there gone. I bet you millions that no one ever picked up the phone in the first few days much less the next few years to check on her. "THEY" sent her back to her doooom!!!
That is what I am saying.
Thank you, and that will be all about that!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 12, 2004, 05:52:00 PM »
No that is not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that the basis for straight(what I took from it) was the creation of new contacts and life skills to prevent us from repeating the old mistakes that led us to do drugs in the first place. When all you have known or done in your life is drugs and all your family does the same what hope have you to return to that and stay sober. No matter how bad your life was no one can resist that great a temptation. Not to mention the fact that she was not allowed to continue any relationships she  had developed in straight. They sent her home knowing that she would fall. That is straight and the judicial systems fault. She was only 16 years old. Where else could she have gone????

[ This Message was edited by: kalideskoper on 2004-03-12 14:53 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ,
« on: March 11, 2004, 01:16:00 PM »
Last I heard she was in jail. She may or may not have gotten out by now. She had a very bad accident that put her in a wheel chair. She had 3 kids and all of them were taken away from her.

This is a very hard subject for me to share. I don't want anyone passing judgement on her. There are not very many people who have really touched my heart, and like no others and they will forever be dear to me. Kim is a wonderful person and she was possessed by the evils of drugs. SHE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON!!! She unfortunatly lives what she learned growing up and doesn't know any different. I pray for her often and wish I could hug her neck just one more time.

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