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Elan School / A disclaimer for the elan school forum board
« on: November 20, 2003, 03:50:00 AM »
I'm sorry marty I cant cum to the board right noe, jeffery is fudge packing me at the moment.
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Elan School / A disclaimer for the elan school forum board
« on: November 20, 2003, 03:10:00 AM »
All stories are fictional here at the elan school forum and can in no way be held liable for slander.This board was designed for people to vent hostility for elan.Then again there is some truth posted here.
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Elan School / Phone call archive to Elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 02:28:00 AM »
its 1:43 am and I decided to call elan.
Hello this is Jacob can I help you?
Yes is this the Elan school?
Yes it is.
HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working?
That would be Mr.Rowe.
Peter Rowe?
Yes thats him
oh Can I please speak to Peter?
He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone.
What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle"
Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir?
Yes jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan?
Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now.
So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a thearputic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date.
Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure.
Tell me something jacob, where are you located right now?
I'm located in the main house in an office.
Are you in the house that says elan 3 bulldogs?
Yes I am.
Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening?
No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling.
Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day?
Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean.
Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob.
Are you aware jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders?
No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name?
Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magizine.
Please to meet you John.
Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actaually labled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so plased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you.
Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here duroing the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilites.I do know that there are consqueneces that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy.
WEll jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works durin the day?
I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book.
Want the truth Jacob?
The truth about what?
About Clare Jacob?
Sure lets hear it.
Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress.
Oh my.
Yes clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with joe all the time in a trailor the elan once had on the campus.
oh my.
Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" comw to the school when she was working and she woul perform sexual acts for them.
Oh my.
And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do.
Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore.
Wait jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date.
Well continue then John.
Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's buttholes and catch stray cats and sodomize them.
Oh my Lord!!!!
Yes they were some sick individuals.
That is very nasty thing to do.
Marty loves it though.
Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch becuase many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells.
"Jacob is laughing on the phone"
Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening?
HaHaHa No I didn't John.
I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay.
I try not to know too much about people and their preferences.
Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me?
Sure John.
Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit.
oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job.
Ok then just tell Marty John Richards ssys "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means.
I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John.
Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob.
Same here John.
Goodnight Jacob
You take care now John.
Good bye.
[ This Message was edited by: Marc RosenBlow on 2003-11-19 23:32 ]
Hello this is Jacob can I help you?
Yes is this the Elan school?
Yes it is.
HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working?
That would be Mr.Rowe.
Peter Rowe?
Yes thats him
oh Can I please speak to Peter?
He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone.
What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle"
Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir?
Yes jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan?
Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now.
So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a thearputic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date.
Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure.
Tell me something jacob, where are you located right now?
I'm located in the main house in an office.
Are you in the house that says elan 3 bulldogs?
Yes I am.
Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening?
No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling.
Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day?
Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean.
Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob.
Are you aware jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders?
No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name?
Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magizine.
Please to meet you John.
Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actaually labled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so plased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you.
Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here duroing the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilites.I do know that there are consqueneces that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy.
WEll jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works durin the day?
I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book.
Want the truth Jacob?
The truth about what?
About Clare Jacob?
Sure lets hear it.
Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress.
Oh my.
Yes clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with joe all the time in a trailor the elan once had on the campus.
oh my.
Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" comw to the school when she was working and she woul perform sexual acts for them.
Oh my.
And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do.
Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore.
Wait jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date.
Well continue then John.
Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's buttholes and catch stray cats and sodomize them.
Oh my Lord!!!!
Yes they were some sick individuals.
That is very nasty thing to do.
Marty loves it though.
Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch becuase many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells.
"Jacob is laughing on the phone"
Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening?
HaHaHa No I didn't John.
I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay.
I try not to know too much about people and their preferences.
Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me?
Sure John.
Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit.
oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job.
Ok then just tell Marty John Richards ssys "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means.
I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John.
Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob.
Same here John.
Goodnight Jacob
You take care now John.
Good bye.
[ This Message was edited by: Marc RosenBlow on 2003-11-19 23:32 ]
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Elan School / Phone call archive to Elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 01:31:00 AM »
The phone call to Tania
Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00
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Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call?
Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret?
Tony Merret?
We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here.
Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change.
Tania is Tony ? You got me confused.
Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is refered to as an "IT"
"The operator giggles on the phone to me"
I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message?
No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day.
Okay , have a nice day.
Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00
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Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call?
Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret?
Tony Merret?
We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here.
Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change.
Tania is Tony ? You got me confused.
Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is refered to as an "IT"
"The operator giggles on the phone to me"
I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message?
No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day.
Okay , have a nice day.
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Elan School / Phone call archive to Elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 01:21:00 AM »
I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him?
jeff's response, "who is this"
my response, " who is this doesnt matter"
Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want"
my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers"
jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that"
click, he hangs up.
I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you",
"Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb"
Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?"
me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo"
Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?"
my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?"
Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him"
my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"
jeff's response, "who is this"
my response, " who is this doesnt matter"
Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want"
my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers"
jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that"
click, he hangs up.
I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you",
"Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb"
Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?"
me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo"
Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?"
my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?"
Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him"
my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"
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Elan School / Phone call archive to Elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 01:20:00 AM »
Phone call to Clare
Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00
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Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call?
Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please?
Who shall I say is calling?
John Richards.
Please hold.
Hello this is Clare can I help you?
Clare, Clare Woodman?
Yes this is she.
Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magizine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan.
A person like myself?
Yes Clare.
And what kind of person am I?
I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone.
Politically incorrect?
?
Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it.
Is this Dan Bostdorf?
No this is John Richards with trouble teen magizine
No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why di you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about elan?
Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostituion and somehow landed a jod working at elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostituion to counsling trouble teens?
" A moment of silence"
Hello, Clare are you still there?
Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat whcih by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former elan resdients and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan?
Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead.
Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again.
Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really pissed off.
Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00
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Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call?
Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please?
Who shall I say is calling?
John Richards.
Please hold.
Hello this is Clare can I help you?
Clare, Clare Woodman?
Yes this is she.
Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magizine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan.
A person like myself?
Yes Clare.
And what kind of person am I?
I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone.
Politically incorrect?
? Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it.
Is this Dan Bostdorf?
No this is John Richards with trouble teen magizine
No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why di you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about elan?
Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostituion and somehow landed a jod working at elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostituion to counsling trouble teens?
" A moment of silence"
Hello, Clare are you still there?
Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat whcih by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former elan resdients and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan?
Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead.
Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again.
Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really pissed off.
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Elan School / Phone call archive to Elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 01:19:00 AM »
A phone conversation for Good ole Marty
Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00
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Hello elan school how may i direct your call?
Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik
Who shall I say is calling
John Richards from trouble teen magizine
Please hold while I direct your call
Marty answers:
Hello this is Martin can I help you?
Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?
And who may I ask is calling?
This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine
There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?
Yes
What do you publish in this magizine John?
Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?
If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.
So you are denying this ever took place?
I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.
How long have you worked at elan Martin?
I have been here for around 9 years.
Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?
And whom are you refering to John?
I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.
Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.
Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?
Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?
Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.
Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.
Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.
So you are not denying it now Marty?
No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.
Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.
I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.
Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.
Okay John.
Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?
If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.
Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?
John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.
Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?
If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.
Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?
John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.
I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.
I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?
Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.
Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.
Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.
John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.
Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?
Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?
Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?
It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.
Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?
Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.
Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.
Ok John you have a nice day......
Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.
Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00
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Hello elan school how may i direct your call?
Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik
Who shall I say is calling
John Richards from trouble teen magizine
Please hold while I direct your call
Marty answers:
Hello this is Martin can I help you?
Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?
And who may I ask is calling?
This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine
There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?
Yes
What do you publish in this magizine John?
Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?
If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.
So you are denying this ever took place?
I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.
How long have you worked at elan Martin?
I have been here for around 9 years.
Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?
And whom are you refering to John?
I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.
Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.
Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?
Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?
Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.
Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.
Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.
So you are not denying it now Marty?
No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.
Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.
I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.
Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.
Okay John.
Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?
If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.
Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?
John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.
Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?
If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.
Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?
John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.
I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.
I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?
Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.
Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.
Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.
John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.
Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?
Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?
Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?
It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.
Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?
Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.
Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.
Ok John you have a nice day......
Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.
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Elan School / Phone calls I made to elan
« on: November 20, 2003, 01:14:00 AM »
I sure did make those calls.Unfortunatley I wish I was able to ask Clare some more questions and same for gottlieb but they couldn't hndle the pressure and hung up on me.
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Elan School / Tania Merret "The transfestite"
« on: November 19, 2003, 03:49:00 PM »
As Tania is not a real woman and was once a man I guess it is only proper o call what is between her legs a "Pagina" or a "Venis" which is it?I think it had its penis slit open and sewn to the crouch to make it look more like a vagina, Tony and Tania whom are the same people can pee standing up.
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Elan School / Phone calls I made to elan
« on: November 19, 2003, 03:42:00 PM »
I have spoken and documneting phone calls that i have made tot he staff today.Click on the stff members forum to read the phone converation, so far I called marty, jeffery, and clare, oh and a call o tania.Click on their forums to read the latest.
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Elan School / Tania Merret "The transfestite"
« on: November 19, 2003, 02:04:00 PM »
Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call?
Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret?
Tony Merret?
We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here.
Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change.
Tania is Tony ? You got me confused.
Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is refered to as an "IT"
"The operator giggles on the phone to me"
I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message?
No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day.
Okay , have a nice day.
Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret?
Tony Merret?
We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here.
Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change.
Tania is Tony ? You got me confused.
Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is refered to as an "IT"
"The operator giggles on the phone to me"
I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message?
No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day.
Okay , have a nice day.
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Elan School / Marty Kruglik number and address
« on: November 19, 2003, 01:26:00 PM »
Hello elan school how may i direct your call?
Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik
Who shall I say is calling
John Richards from trouble teen magizine
Please hold while I direct your call
Marty answers:
Hello this is Martin can I help you?
Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?
And who may I ask is calling?
This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine
There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?
Yes
What do you publish in this magizine John?
Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?
If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.
So you are denying this ever took place?
I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.
How long have you worked at elan Martin?
I have been here for around 9 years.
Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?
And whom are you refering to John?
I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.
Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.
Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?
Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?
Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.
Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.
Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.
So you are not denying it now Marty?
No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.
Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.
I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.
Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.
Okay John.
Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?
If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.
Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?
John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.
Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?
If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.
Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?
John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.
I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.
I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?
Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.
Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.
Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.
John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.
Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?
Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?
Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?
It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.
Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?
Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.
Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.
Ok John you have a nice day......
Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.
Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik
Who shall I say is calling
John Richards from trouble teen magizine
Please hold while I direct your call
Marty answers:
Hello this is Martin can I help you?
Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?
And who may I ask is calling?
This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine
There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?
Yes
What do you publish in this magizine John?
Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?
If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.
So you are denying this ever took place?
I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.
How long have you worked at elan Martin?
I have been here for around 9 years.
Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?
And whom are you refering to John?
I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.
Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.
Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?
Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?
Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.
Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.
Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.
So you are not denying it now Marty?
No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.
Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.
I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.
Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.
Okay John.
Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?
If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.
Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?
John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.
Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?
If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.
Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?
John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.
I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.
I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?
Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.
Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.
Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.
John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.
Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?
Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?
Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?
It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.
Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?
Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.
Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.
Ok John you have a nice day......
Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.
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Elan School / Jeff Gottliebs addres and phone number
« on: November 19, 2003, 10:52:00 AM »
I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him?
jeff's response, "who is this"
my response, " who is this doesnt matter"
Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want"
my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers"
jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that"
click, he hangs up.
I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you",
"Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb"
Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?"
me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo"
Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?"
my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?"
Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him"
my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"
jeff's response, "who is this"
my response, " who is this doesnt matter"
Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want"
my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers"
jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that"
click, he hangs up.
I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you",
"Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb"
Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?"
me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo"
Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?"
my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?"
Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him"
my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"
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Elan School / Marc Rosenbergs address and phone #
« on: November 19, 2003, 10:31:00 AM »
Oh i love masterbating.I love it especially whena new female resident came into the house, couldn't wait to get access to her panties.
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Elan School / Tania Merret "The transfestite"
« on: November 19, 2003, 10:30:00 AM »
I enjoyed watching Tania stand up as she peed, it made my herione high trip.
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