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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Academy at Sisters
« on: July 03, 2010, 10:18:07 AM »
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Vic Zealot"
What I think it's important to know is that this place itself is only a small part of a massive web of bullshit. The accreditation, the testimonials, the everything can be (and probably is) either gross fabrication or heavily "re-interpreted". Evil hides behind stock photos of smiling people and all-white backgrounds more often than drawings of pentagrams and all-black backgrounds.
Yup. And this industry has been nurtured and bred in a society that's been fed a steady diet — via the media, the foci of the "experts," governmental mandates, advertising, etc. — that pathologizes any but the most conformist of adolescences. Small wonder then, that parents believe there's "something wrong that can be fixed" with their kid, when they get that message coming from all directions.

At this point in time, this cultural mindset seems to be unique to the U.S. You hear from posters in other countries that this kind of stuff just isn't going on there, certainly not to the pervasive degree that it is here.

Besides the societal impetus necessary for this crap to go on - whose existence I think ought to be self-evident, but would nonetheless sound wacky to someone just hearing it for the first time - there's, on a smaller scale, the B.S. going on in the individual "schools" and in the organizations that support them. Essentially, the nationwide associations giving awards and credibility to these places are about as impartial as the tobacco advocacy groups who told people smoking didn't lead to cancer. Nothing but papier-mache props that they are really hoping nobody looks at closely enough to tell what they are. Instead they see the individual abuses that happen and attack leaves, while ignoring the big nasty gnarled tree that allows those leaves to grow.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: I knew a kid...
« on: July 03, 2010, 01:04:48 AM »
There might be some merit in taking someone away from a destructive environment, but not against their will. Change is something that must come from the inside, and if in any circumstance you coerce someone into enacting that change you are wrong, plain and simple. An argument against reckless behaviour is not an argument for any specific approach to that behaviour - certainly not a heavy-handed one that stomps about on someone's identity and human rights.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Academy at Sisters
« on: July 03, 2010, 12:42:25 AM »
Whooter, I really hate to get all serious business in my first post, but it seems that you're in this topic to make a scene, and after having done some research it seems this is how you roll, so I guess  :feedtrolls:

Living a few thousand miles away from OP, I can do nothing to help. On one hand I want to say "run away", but I know that if OP's father looks at this thread it will lose any credibility it may have had with any more of that in it.

What I think it's important to know is that this place itself is only a small part of a massive web of bullshit. The accreditation, the testimonials, the everything can be (and probably is) either gross fabrication or heavily "re-interpreted". Evil hides behind stock photos of smiling people and all-white backgrounds more often than drawings of pentagrams and all-black backgrounds.

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