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To answer your question....I don't....fit in that is...have given up trying....not sure how important 'fitting in' is....and yourself?

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I finished high school (real diploma, unrelative to Str8) by aged 19, and went on to finish 2.5 yrs of college @ different local universities (still working on that actually) Yes, I was a 17 yr old H.S. Sophomore with his nose to the wheel, grinding those gears hard to get away from Str8. What about you?....you'd mentioned the program @RMA

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Yes, indeed ,it was a mighty fine sales job done on my parents and, eventually, me. By aged 15 I'd fallen into the trap, or, 'bottleneck' of Str8 Inc. I was a prime candidate I guess.I'd started acting up @ home and school (still managing decent grades though) a little while b-4 smoking 1st joint or drinking beer. It's a complicated and boring legal situation that I won't bother u with @ this time, though I've only recently started persuing the legal end of it.
I'd done all the same stuff that many teens do, but somehow I never cared if I got caught (embracing the rebellion, unlike my brothers and many other youngsters that I knew)
Just enough for someone to suggest this 'highly effective', 'slightly abrasive' place called Str8 Inc. (don't even want to give satsfctn. of full name)
Suffice to say, I 'graduated' in '84, but have never been the same since. I was speaking to another Str8ling the other day and we talked about how Str8 acted, at all times, as if they wanted to somehow 'motivate us for life, permanently'....somehow, the place has managed to do the exact opposite, permanently....or so it seems, but there's that kid in me that is gonna 'make it' despite the piss-poor quality of a life's 'education' @ Str8.....BY GUM!      :soapbox:

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Yes, starry-eyed pirate, I picked up on ' apprentice' in your post. I think that's a very key word when it comes to the title of your post and what could seem a certain appeal of these group sessions ( or @ least could' ve kept us somewhat entertained) to some of us held captive @ Str8. I was there in '83 (was 15), and, to this day I swear there were people there, ostensibly, as a part of group, that were actually what  I thought, even then, as graduate students of some sort.
Whether these few were struggling w/ drug addiction or not I wouldn't/couldn't say. I do now realise that they spoke on certain psychological matters w/ some authority, and even remember the term 'cognitive dissonance'     being spoke of in group by a few. That type of thing did have a certain sway over us I think and I remember hanging on certain such 'phasers' every word. They did command a certain amount of attention/respect in group and I remember thinking 'I could speak/act like that, if that's what it takes to get through my phases'.....anyway, whatever that's worth, I think you are on to something there.

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For years, I've thought mine, and thousands of others @ Straight Inc., was a unique experience in brainwashing/thought reform. After reading  the endless lists of such places on these boards w/ different names and faces, (I can't even keep up w/ them) I start to go numb. It doesn't matter which 'program' or 'specialty school'  has a post about it, they all have so much in common.....'hey, let's try this on 'em----see what happens'....WTF is wrong with us?....I'm ashamed of (personally) even any 'half-assed' involvement in one of these places (early 80's)
Being a Wikipedia addict, I can't even find these other places on the site. That is telling to me. You read about (or experience) one, you already know about the other.

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