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Yes Honda Rider, actually you have missed quite a bit. You get 2 conversations a month with your kid. Why can't you talk to him every day? And, how long was it before you got to talk to him the first time after placement there? Kids that don't report problems advance, kids that attempt to report it get things like OP, 0 points, level one. There was a suicide in Spring Creek Lodge earlier this month. Did you know that even happened before coming to fornits? I bet his mail, if he ever sends any, goes to HQ in Utah before it comes to your house. If that isn't a cult behavior, what is? Oh, and did you sign that 0 tolerance sheet? :scared:


Aqua Fortis  :skull:

When you say "confronting" in the previous post, would you consider that as a typo or is it more like a Fruedian Slip?

Also, I have read about how many of the kids that "opt out" at 18 have been in one or more of the wwasp facilities for over 2 years. My point is: These are programs from which kids are supposed to graduate, and when they don't, their families close the door on them. It appears to be a situation where the non-graduate 18 and older kids are left to fend for themselves, often right after leaving the facility that very same day. Example- (Homeless shelters) If I was escorted to one of these programs as a kid at 16 years old, didn't apparently agree with, believe in, or otherwise failed to internalize the program mantras in 2 years, I doubt if I ever would graduate. However, I would also believe that I should NOT be excommunicated from my family and left to fend on my own without even as much as a roof over my head. This reeks of some degree of extortion. How can you justify this Brown? Why are kids shut out of the family if they take their "exit plan"? ::  Please elaborate if at all possible. I am interested to hear your perspective on this little part of this otherwise BIG picture.


Aqua Fortis

OK, I sense progress here. The reason, point, etc... for my question was based on an observation I have made over the many years since my experience in STRAIGHT, INC. Most all of the survivors of that program that I know or have talked to have not informed their bosses about their stints in the program. I find it rather odd that a place that is SO successful according to the program staff, parents, etc... would not be mentioned by a successful graduate applying for a job. I know people who have flat out lied about their "treatment" in order to get jobs, etc... Is it so shameful and embarrassing to tell the truth? What is the harm? If PFC is so great at fixing kids drug problems, then why does it not make sense to use that accomplishment on an application for employment?
This is not against you, I am merely making an observation here that even in PFC, people are still not willing to disclose this feat of graduation to people out in the real world, ie prospective bosses. Amongst fellow clients, it is no problem talking about graduation, how much pain one endured, who killed themselves, etc etc... but, once clients deal with people in the real world, it's a different set of rules. It is the cultish nature of the program, I suppose, do you agree?
Just for goodness's sake,
When you post vile comments in a forum full of survivors of STRAIGHT and its spinoffs and predecessors, you are just adding insult to injury, creating problems that should never exist, and basically causing a lack of interest in coming here to read it. It's fine if you want to promote PFC, you may be in the minority though.
Not a sermon, just a thought... ::cheers::


Aqua Fortis

:silly: If you were applying for a job, would you be willing to put Pathway as a reference on your application? Id like to see you flip off a police officer like that too, lol...

Aqua Fortis

On 2003-11-10 04:34:00, sammiegirl wrote:

"While living w/non-straightlings, I've noticed that they think some of my habits are weird.

DO YOU:

Brush your teeth in the shower?

Need water by your bedside?

Catch yourself motivating at a confrence, or other place where you must be called on to talk?

Sweat horribly in the night?

Look people in the eyes when they talk to you and vice versa?

Can you read peoples emotions and call them on it?

Think it is necessary to talk about your feelings when ever relating to another person?

There is so much more.

I just thought we could have a little fun listing our STRAIGHTLING quirks.

Peace and tremendous love

Saammie"

I dont know if this is from straight, but, I notice around survivors I visit that they don't watch their kids that closely. Also, all the doors are friggin locked, even when I'm there, and then coffee is always on the beverage list. Soaking a pillow at night happens everyonce in a while...


Aqua Fortis

OK, everyone's so busy this and that, but, would the exsafecounselor please answer the questions I asked in an earlier post, last one on page 7. Thank you.

Aqua Fortis

One interesting FACT here. None of the emails sent to the "legitimate" participants has been answered. There is a sneaky kind of feelin that maybe SAFE, DFAF and the Anchor Foundation have more to gain from this event than previously thought. Could this be a conspiracy theory?


Aqua Fortis

4:30PM Front Steps TD Waterhouse Center, Orlando, FL on 9-11-03. Private Message with questions, etc...

Aqua Fortis