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Actually been China, beautiful! Can't say I have been to the moon.

SCL mom - is your program child an adopted child? I'm wondering if you adopted from China - and then sent the kid to get brain washed, Chinese style, in the American program. (talk about life's little ironies)

Oh - and I have spent many a sleepless night worried sick about my kids. Their antics would turn the most relaxed parent's hair gray. Somehow they survived. They have been to jail once or twice for a night or two. Survived that to.  One actually once ran away with a circus. Another time took off with the rainbow people. She was attacked by a homeless lady with a rusty nail. She was bit by a rattle snake. She got over heated and dehydrated in the Grand Canyon. But she survived - no doubt because she was with friends and strangers were allowed to help. Had she been in one of these programs, she'd be dead.  

I myself was once a bit of a party chick. I should have died on a couple of occasions. Some of the people I ran with were very dangerous. I do mean very. I've no idea how I survived to suffer so at the hands of my own kids - but I did.

The point is, this certainty you have in your head that your child would be dead with out the program is a fallacy, based on propaganda,  fed to you to keep you afraid not to trust the program.

Jail might be more a certainty if your dealing with substance abuse  - but jail would be much better for them that these programs.  Jail and the court system might actually get them into legitimate and helpful therapy and vocational training. I'll tell ya, after a stint on one of these program holes, jail is a cake walk. I've been told that over and over from Kids who have had their fair share of both.  

And so - your a salesperson in Utah?
Selling the program are we? That's the question.
'Course there are lots of salespersons in Utah. Could be any number of things. But that will make a person wonder.

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What about the thousands of testimony of students that benefited.

All written while still in the program trying to get out.

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More than the ones who haven't.

Says who? You've barely scratched the surface here ya know. And many of them can tell you all about those glowing testimonies they write for the program after the seminars.

 

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Manipulation goes a long way.

It sure as shit does.

I am a Real Estate agent. But that doesn't matter does it. My child is not adopted. But that doesn't matter also. Just a parent with a different view and had a good experience with SCL. You are soooo twisted and wrong it is pathetic. I was little bit of a party girl also. But new my limitations. My son was getting into scary shit. And could not stop. So I opted for help and it worked. Did not know that my back ground was so important

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Let's see what comes off the top of my head...

Here's some.

Finding corroborated reports of abuse at a WWASPS facility is like finding water in the ocean.

Again, have you been there? Or witness things your self?

Have YOU been to the program?

Hey, have you been to CHINA? Is it what everyone says it is?

Have you been to the MOON? Think its a big rock or a hunk of cheese?

Thats a pretty fickle excuse. A preponderance of evidence and thousands of witnesses giving consistent testimony can't be countered with "WELL YOU YOURSELF WERE NOT THERE"

Actually been China, beautiful! Can't say I have been to the moon.

Sooo that is suppose to what? Hurt me? And why would it make you shit bricks? Thought intelligent people where involved on this website. I can see that is not true.

If you know him that well why is he in SCL?

He is not there anymore he graduated program and doing well. I knew him so well that he needed to put into a program to save him.

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My son was at SCL for 18 months. Did Great!!! That was 3 yrs ago. Credits were fine. He is in college and doing great. So there. You are a simple minded person with no backing to your claims. There are hundreds of kids that SCL helps. So what do you say to that?

What do I say to that?

Well. . .
I'd say your son was a lucky young man that his credits passed muster. Sometimes they do slip past. I think it helps, if a high school accepts them, and the kid goes on to graduate from a bonafide HS. But the sad truth is, a lot of kids do have problems getting their credits and diplomas accepted, and they end up taking a GED or an extra year of HS, to get the credits they need for college admission. Occasionally one of these poor kids will write the various web sites asking if anyone can help them prove their credits are accredited. Its very sad.

Glad the boy is "doing great"; but seriously doubt you have any idea how he really is; what he really thinks; or that you ever will.

There are volumes of scholarly material backing everything I have claimed; And tons of student and parent accounts of the abuse and neglect found in each and every WASP related program. But you are not able to understand the significance of all this; because : WASHED BRAINS SHRINK.

  The percentage of students who receive credits and diplomas are higher than the ones who do not. Your exaggerating. And don't doubt my relationship with my son. It is great. And I know him very well.