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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Origin of the Species
« on: November 28, 2007, 09:04:06 AM »
Yes--hard to get into details here. Also indirectly threatened retribution against the nana. Told us that but for our disprespectful, untrusting behavior we would be packing for Idaho now. (Well not now now;  nobody can go there now--because of the girl's bad behavior, of course. Don't you care about her emotional growth?)

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Origin of the Species
« on: November 27, 2007, 06:26:58 PM »
Yes. Can't even get anybody at the school to return a message, and they reported the calls to her parents, who promptly threatened us with legal action.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / graduate work
« on: November 27, 2007, 05:46:12 PM »
God help me, there's another program up there for 18-24 year olds, Echo Springs. The swill they are dishing up on the ES web site is exactly the kind of crap her parents eat for breakfast. I fear we are never going to see my niece again. She'll become staff. She'll open her own school. She'll pour Koolaid.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Origin of the Species
« on: November 27, 2007, 05:31:12 PM »
Her parents. They were justifiably concerned about her, she was acting out and her grades plummeted, but she had not been in trouble with the law or been hospitalized for mental illness, that sort of thing. The parents are total Koolaid drinkers, i.e., totally brainwashed by BCA. They will not hear one word of even a question about the situation. They stopped communicating with us more than a year ago. They only speak regularly with the girl's nana. She, like other family members, believe what they are told. They don't want to believe anything bad could be happening. Really; they can't put their heads around it. Family history has been rewritten; now it's said that "she was always a handful." I ask them to describe a time when they saw her being out of control, and they can't name a time --or they point to some tantrum she had when she was 8. It's unreal.

I've shared a mountain of research with them--reports from, and interviews with, respected experts in mental health, education, child development, law. I send them links to this site, to ISAC (http://http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp), to A START (http://http://astart.fmhi.usf.edu/). My ever-increasing level of alarm seems only to erode my credibility. They think the widespread reports of abuse and death in the programs are in other programs, "bad" programs, the boot camps--"Why, it just it can't be that way at BCA. After all, her father says she's happy and doing well." And, gosh, visits for family members are (always) just over the horizon--but not now. "Don't you care about her emotional growth?"

No one other than her parents--not even her siblings--has seen or spoken with her in almost 2 years. Many/most of the survivors who post here talk about home visits after 6 months--which is an eternity--but here I am with no contact for 2 years, and I'm just so very, very worried about her. Now I suspect they are grooming the parents for her to go to one of the post-high-school programs, like Innercept (http://http://www.innercept.net/).

There are a few family members who understand, but we don't have influence where it counts: her parents. We are ready to be there for her in whatever way she needs when she gets out.

That's my sad story, Anon.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Origin of the Species
« on: November 27, 2007, 04:19:37 PM »
Thanks. This is the diagram that was published in the Sept. Mother Jones Magazine in a long article focused on use of electric shocks to control behavior (at Rotenberg, if I'm not mistaken).

The diagram shows CEDU as closed in 2005. Seems to be a widespread misunderstanding--so many people don't realize that schools like Boulder Creek Academy, Northwest and Ascent are still operating, just under new ownership but with most of the same staff, and definitely with total isolation of at least one of the kids: my niece.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / blownawaytheidahoway
« on: November 27, 2007, 02:46:50 PM »
Building on Che and Psy's picket-the-facility approach, you could stand out there on a M-W-F morning with a sign saying "Never attend another rap!/Free bus ticket anywhere in the US."

Sadly, I hasten to add that I've been advised that any complicity in removing a student from campus could get you in deep legal trouble, so I'm not advoacting that.

It pains me to hear you talk about how much you dreaded the raps and how central they were to the brainwashing. I wish I could turn back the clock and give you all the gift of a normal childhood (even though most "normal" childhoods are somewhat screwed up and traumatic).
 
Auntie Em

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Che and Psy,

Such brave souls, and such a noble deed. Well done. Good, simple strategy. You let the kids know they are not invisible or forgotten, and help them see some choices. Interviewing neighbors is brilliant.

I take it you were not on school property? Sounds like that's why videotaping becomes the issue, rather than trespassing. Yes?

Auntie Em

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My pleasure. Group effort, as you can see.

Who was it who was talking about the importance of a good sense of humor? Shanlea?

Have a good week,

Auntie Em

P.S. You ever notice the bitter irony of BCA/RMA/NWA/Ascent being in Boundary County? Wouldn't No Boundaries County be more fitting?

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Ooookay, so that's one ham & tuna on toasted sourboundarydough, one rhubarb & atlantic cod hot pocket with nicotine flavored parmesean cheese sprinkles, one Catholic guilt wad on Jewish rye with cigarette butt garnish, an order of passive-agressive waffles, and a birthday cake.  

To go, I assume?

Auntie Em

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A human thing, I'd say, though we suffer from it in varying degrees. Interpersonal relationships are hard (see every work of fiction ever written), harder for some than others. Whom to trust with what information is a balancing act for all of us.

From what you all have said about the CEDU experience (if I understand you correctly), there were no boundaries on what you were supposed to disclose. Often. To everyone.

"No boundaries" is, IMO, inherently unhealthy.

I assume we are not talking about "I want ham and swiss" v "I want tuna fish" here. I gather you are fundamentally talking about those times when we don't share what it is we really feel or want. Complicated. A lot depends on whom you're dealing with and how much you trust that person, what's at risk or to be gained... Complicated. Very human that this should be difficult. It's okay to fail, and we do.

But you need to know where your fuck-off point is, and you are entitled to insist on holding to it, holding your boundaries. The corallary is that you must repect others' boundaries as well.  

Japanese proverb:
Fall down seven times, stand up eight.

Auntie Em

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Fornits wiki status
« on: November 19, 2007, 12:52:45 PM »
The "troubled teen" label accomplishes several things: it undermines the credibility of the teen, it boosts the credibility of the parents, reduces the parents' sense of guilt, and the teen does not need to come out of the program as a healthy, well-adjusted person.

"Bad apple" teen + "long-suffering" parent = "Too bad, we did all we could and he/she was already screwed up before the program."

A merciless trap.

Auntie Em

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Aspen Education Group / Aspen Seminars
« on: November 16, 2007, 12:31:28 PM »
No worries.  As Dr. McCoy would say, "The Klingon's words are unimportant and we do not hear him."

Auntie Em

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Fornits wiki status
« on: November 16, 2007, 10:58:32 AM »
It would be interesting to systematically catalog the contradictions in the sales pitches, just as illustrated in the previous posts.

I've noticed that at the Aspen A Academy site, no matter what issue you click on--depression, ADD, academic failure, bipolar, ingrown toenail, bad haircut, whatever--you get the same assessment form, and yes, the form suggests that any and every teenager needs treatment.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / blownawaytheidahoway
« on: November 16, 2007, 10:22:10 AM »
You guys sure cheer me up.

The road-trip-with-a-bolt-cutter plan got a lot of discussion early on. Ultimately realized I can't help her much if I get sent up for kidnapping, or if her father sues us into pennilessness.

Castle, you going out there under the ruse of holding a kumbiya moment is actually pretty intriguing.

I've not been able to elaborate on the details here in a public forum, but we have explored and continue to investigate ways to communicate with her, to get her independent legal counsel, or to actually get her out of there. It's terribly complicated really--the bastards have a lot more experience dealing with people like us than we have dealing with people like them--and it requires perseverence to find people who can help beyond offering sympathy, or referring you to someone else. For example, it's hard to find an attorney who has the right stuff: the necessary law background, familiarity with the widespread reports of abuse and death in the programs, and a license to practice in "Imaho" (in the entire history of the State of Idaho there have been fewer than 7000 attorneys who passed the bar there). Plus some backbone and a devious mind, if you get my drift.

But I'm working on it, and welcome your ideas. Your insider perspectives, hard won as they were, have been invaluable to me. I so appreciate the support and encouragement.

Auntie Em

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / blownawaytheidahoway
« on: November 15, 2007, 10:19:45 AM »
Stina wrote:
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Have her parents said that she won't be able to see all of you (the rest of her family) when she eventually comes on a home visit?

Home visits? Home visits? That's some kind of mirage in the desert.

There has been no communication whatsoever with any family member other than her parents. Both sides of the family, not even siblings, not her grandmother, no one. Almost 2 years now. Some letters were allowed to be sent, but we later learned none had been given to her. I'm not sure she's been allowed off campus with her parents more than once or twice.

Of course we are told this is all her fault, and that but for her bad behavior (and ours), we would be able to see her.

Auntie Em

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