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Hyde Schools / Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 29, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Hydemom""
There were male and female staff in this meeting. My daughter told me it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do.  She was having trouble being in the same room as the creep teacher, (LD) who fondled her, so was looking the other way. Judy Fortier, a former Hyde Mom and staffer told her, "xxxxx, you need to look at LD when you talk to him." Ken Grant also told her that she needed to confront LD and let him know how uncomfortable he made her feel.

The fact that these misguided, ignoramus, mentally impaired  fools who run Hyde School would think it is normal or therapuetic to put a child (victim) through this says it all!!

Okay, from what I understand Hyde called this meeting, let's call it the "victim is expected to confront assailant" meeting, and from what I've read thus far plus other information which I will not go into, this is not exactly a meeting that the victim wanted, in fact, the victim has said "it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do."

[li] Diddler Dubinsky, accused of sexual assault;[/li]
[li] Ken Grant, heavy honcho school official, doesn't want the school to be held liable, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife;[/li]
[li] Judy Fortier, Hyde staff and sycophant, friend of Claire and Ken Grant, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife, husband also used to work at Hyde but allegedly left "because of a pronounced proclivity to ogle undergrads;"[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #1, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #2, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] perhaps others.[/li][/list]

[li]  victim, underage, family is far away and has not been informed.[/li][/list]

Ummm... something seems a bit OFF about this picture.  Two things rear up in my mind, other than the incredibly disparate blocks of personnel (just squint your eyes and look at that screen).
    Why weren't the parents informed
immediately when the original complaints were aired, not to mention by the time this meeting took place (from what I've heard, there was even a second meeting like the above before they deigned to get around to it)?

Why isn't there an advocate for this girl present, even an informal one, a teacher or confidante of her own choosing, preferable someone outside of the school with no hidden agenda?[/list]
What exactly was Hyde trying to accomplish by intimidating and humiliating this girl who had just been sexually assaulted by one of the participants?

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Addendum, Aug. 29, 2007:  I knew I had remembered seeing Judy Fortiere's name somewhere.  I went back and re-read Gary's ISAC document.  She start's being mentioned about a little more than a third of the way through.  For greater ease of reading as well as for the greater good of everyone, I have copied this document onto fornits with its own thread.  Links for downloading and source are provided therein.  Many thanks, Gary!
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=23004


As a former parent  I will say that I don't think they were bad people. I think that Judy had good intentions but was sadly misguided. I believe she found a purpose at Hyde after having difficulties as a parent.  It can happen.  It happened to us.  Louis was a decent guy from what I remember, but it was obvious he was afraid of Hyde and speaking out against them. I was very disappointed in his weak character and allowing himself to be influenced by the Grants and Gaulds even though it was apparent he and Judy had strong convinctions about this sexual predator, LD. In fact Judy was the one who first encouraged our daughter to come forward as she too was sick of LD's behavior year after year.

I was glad to hear that the Fortier's "got out" of Hyde!

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Hyde Schools / Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 28, 2007, 03:26:03 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Hydemom""
When LD enjoyed himself rubbing his body all over my daughter she complained to Ken Grant who then called her into a meeting with LD, (without my knowledge) along with other adult staff.

sounds kinda like she was sexaully assaulted all over again, pyschologically that is.

dont tell me those staff were all men.  that would make it real like that thurel case, no?


There were male and female staff in this meeting. My daughter told me it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do.  She was having trouble being in the same room as the creep teacher, (LD) who fondled her, so was looking the other way. Judy Fortier, a former Hyde Mom and staffer told her, "xxxxx, you need to look at LD when you talk to him." Ken Grant also told her that she needed to confront LD and let him know how uncomfortable he made her feel.

The fact that these misguided, ignoramus, mentally impaired  fools who run Hyde School would think it is normal or therapuetic to put a child (victim) through this says it all!!

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Hyde Schools / Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 28, 2007, 11:22:46 AM »
Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro""
Quote from: ""Hydemom""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Hyde mom,

  I agree. Nothing funny about it. It is pure blame the victim right out of the Catholic Church play book.  The chickens will come home to roost some day, they always do. Hyde will toss a parent out on their ear over simple disagreements but will embrace a sycophant guilty of moral and criminal transgressions.   It makes all the character BS exactly that.  BS.  They talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

The difference between the Catholic Church and Hyde is that the Catholic Church has humbled themselves and are making sure this doesn't happen again. Hyde stood behind LD and when they finally made a statement it was, "LD will be taking a little time off to look at his life."
 There was no doubt that the "concern" was about LD, not the victim.

   It is part of the Hyde ethos.  You are responsible for your experience at Hyde.  If Hyde does not work for you it is because you did not commit to the process.  So if you are sexually harassed at Hyde it is because you allowed it to happen.


Very interesting that you say this.  When LD enjoyed himself rubbing his body all over my daughter she  complained to Ken Grant who then called her into a meeting with LD, (without my knowledge) along with other adult staff.  She was made to confront him in front of all. MY GOD, this was a sexual assault and they want a young teenage girl to be in the same room as the perpetrator to "confront" him??  Sorry, but this goes beyond sick!! Every single one of those staff who participated in this and knew it was wrong needs to look at themselves and ask why they were such cowards.  I am referring to the non family members who were upset yet kept silent.

Someone asked if we won the case.  The case was going to trial in Ct Federal Court.  The jury was selected.  Hyde then settled right before.

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Hyde Schools / Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 28, 2007, 10:28:30 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Hyde mom,

  I agree. Nothing funny about it. It is pure blame the victim right out of the Catholic Church play book.  The chickens will come home to roost some day, they always do. Hyde will toss a parent out on their ear over simple disagreements but will embrace a sycophant guilty of moral and criminal transgressions.   It makes all the character BS exactly that.  BS.  They talk the talk but can't walk the walk.


The difference between the Catholic Church and Hyde is that the Catholic Church has humbled themselves and are making sure this doesn't happen again. Hyde stood behind LD and when they finally made a statement it was, "LD will be taking a little time off to look at his life."
 There was no doubt that the "concern" was about LD, not the victim.

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Hyde Schools / Re: Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 27, 2007, 12:37:50 PM »
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Hydemom""
When confronting Malcolm by phone and asking how he would like it if it had happened to his daughter, his response was, "my daughter could handle it."

The implication seems to be that your daughter couldn't handle it.  What's there to handle?  I am sure most parents will be very pleased to hear that for that $40,000 they shell out to Hyde, their daughter will be less protected from sexual predators than if she walked down the main block in the combat zone butt naked.

Another thought comes to mind, namely just how Laura Denton (Malcolm's wife) chose to "handle it" in the past.  She got married to Malcolm!   :rofl:

Perhaps Hyde School had something along those lines lined up for your daughter!  Well, woman, you may have just missed a golden opportunity, ha ha ha!!


I appreciate that you have a sense of humor but there is NOTHING humorous about a young girl trusting an older man in a position of authority, who was supposed to protect her, only to then have him fondle her and rape her of her trust in authority.

There was much more to this story.....what they put our daughter through, how they interogated her without us being informed of the crime, how they NEVER offered counseling, etc. For a school that is supposed to be based on "Concern" and "Integrity" they certainly didn't show any!

This is the past and we have moved on, but seeing this other person talk about sexual abuse I felt compelled to inform you that there are many more cases of the same at Hyde. Any parent who reads this website and still decides to send their kid to Hyde, must be nuts!

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Hyde Schools / Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
« on: August 27, 2007, 10:25:38 AM »
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Honor  

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My name is Weston M. Price

I attended Hyde school (Bath) roughly during the years of 1987-1988. I never finished, I was a discipline problem and never quite cared for any of the staff. In my time at Hyde I saw, or participated in:

Seeing a student (Stuart Grenik sp(?)) being struck by Joseph Gauld Sr (I was not the only one witness to this)

A sexual relationship with a teacher (with me)

My parents being paid off by Hyde to not press charges in regards to certain violations (see aforementioned relationship).

There is no substitute for evidence, facts, and actual testimony. Having been at Hyde for probably the worst time in it's history, I can attest to quite a few things regarding the school, it's founder, it's history, it's 'unique potential'.


Note, oddly enough. I am also a survivor of Straight Inc (Atlanta chapter).

Questions?
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Yes, I have a question.  What would you call a Character Based School who has every opportunity to avoid a lawsuit by simply keeping the pedophile away from the victims yet refuses to do so?  I call this plain STUPIDITY, don't you?

I am the parent of a girl who was sexually fondled by a staff member with the initials LD.  Although Hyde would like you to believe that some lunatic parent made up a story about their daughter being molested by LD, this is not so! It's called "DENIAL" Hyde, when one wants to pretend something didn't happen in order to live with ones self.

 LD did sexually fondle my daughter. The only reason we did not file criminal charges was because the attorney explained that our daughter would be put through more than she could handle going through a criminal trial. It was explained that she would be re traumatized. LD should consider himself lucky.

I asked over a six month period that LD not be allowed on campus.  Hyde would not agree to this no matter how hard I pleaded.  Their stance was that because LD was a parent at Hyde, (he was asked to resign from staff after we pursued this) he had every right to be on campus for his daughters activities, parent weekends, seminars, and the like.  As far as I was concerned, this not only gave him an opportunity to sexually harass other female students, it re traumatized my daughter by seeing him, as well as sent a very poor message to the other students about what kind of behavior would be tolerated on campus. After our many pleadings fell on deaf ears, we filed a lawsuit under Title IX.

 When confronting Malcolm by phone and asking how he would like it if it had happened to his daughter, his response was, "my daughter could handle it."  Geez Louise, poor thing.  I hope she never has to go through something like our daughter. I am still waiting for Malcolm's apology and explanation for such a stupid remark. Also pretty sad that a head of a school would take this type of attitude. Hyde was however kind enough to offer that our daughter should move to the other campus. I guess this is how they offer assistance to a victim. Let the perpetrator stay where he is and enjoy his life in paid campus housing, and send the victim off to another place where she will feel even more isolated, not have any friends, etc.

  In my estimation the whole sick culture at Hyde is pathetic, but I guess wherever there are desperate parents, there will be places like Hyde.  Good luck to all of you.  If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them.  I also would be happy to speak to any incoming parents who might like to know more about Hyde.

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