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PURE Bullshit and CAICA / Perspective about the Naive and Selfish
« on: June 10, 2007, 01:50:16 PM »
Very early on in her 'advocacy' a couple years ago, IZ wanted to volunteer for ISAC. At the time, she had been workin with a lawyer etc etc... and helping us was what she claimed she wanted to do. So after receiving our specific instructions, she disregarded them and decided to report abuse at Majestic.Ranch, thinkin that she was SAVING the kids. Actually what she did was to screw up a golden opportunity to finally document and PROVE abuse inside a WASSP facility. She blew it. I couldn't believe anyone could do that bullshit, and smack myself regularly for trustin her. (Keep in mind, this was the FIRST anyone had ever heard about her) learn by the burn so to speak. She completely bypassed common sense and moral character to serve her own interests. Also, what she failed to realize all the while was that CPS there works very closely with M. R. , right? Hey IZ, check the WASSP Crimes Report or do YOUR OWN research! You know, family looks out for family, etc etc and all the call did was to ALERT the abusers that someone was talking to the 'outside'. This industry doesn't offer 2nd chances. Apparently she is still reeling from that experience. Ever since, it seems to be going downhill for her and her reputation. She's done this to herself. Nobody has to slam her or 'defame' her, it looks to me to occur naturally. What about the time she 'stood up' the Rolling Stone reporter? Hmm, not cool. Oh well, What goes around must actually be coming around for her. Let the ball roll where it may...  :roll:

Harry

PS: Hey IZ, unless only YOU care, you can take down that litchfield vs isac suit now, LOL... It's been over for MONTHS!!!   :rofl:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / UNANSWERED MAIL
« on: January 18, 2003, 08:07:00 PM »
Some people never learn from experience, some people cannot see the forest through the trees, some people are highly unstable and in need of help, and there are a whole lot of people who don't care anymore. I think that is the root of the problem here a "You dont care, I dont care" kind of attitude. How far have you gone to stop the STRAIGHT INC treatment modality in America? Tell me, anonymous, like we dont know who you are. Take your own advice and put your money where your mouth is.  :lol:    Harry

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What the hell?
« on: January 18, 2003, 07:56:00 PM »
Thank you for your kind words and your encouraging advice. Lord knows Dirty Harry aint takin no for an answer!  :flame: I choose to remain here, giving shit to people who ask for it and at times even if they don't, recruiting activists, and making the streets a little safer in the meantime. I am sure that others will do the same. This mess was created and it can be cleaned up, it may be a nasty job though. Maybe it will be something to look back on one day. Harry

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Staff and 7th stepping do not necessarily fit all into one category here Bill H. I have here a list of nearly 75 rules that 5th phase trainees were required to adhere to. I said 5th phase trainees Bill, not 5th phasers. Don't tell people out there that staff did not know what they were doing, or did not know what they were getting themselves into. Sure, some of them were worse once they made it and used that power, but it takes a bit more energy to adhere to extra 75 written rules on 5th phase trainee status don't you think? Let's not talk about the number of unwritten rules now, OK? My gooshness, that had to be over 100 rules for those trainees to adhere to. Hmmm, that's insane. oops opinion there. Working a STRAIGHT INC program as a regular phaser such as I had been, had nothing to do with doing a staff member's program. Night and day, Bill H. totally different. I have gone over so many documents about training, etc. that I find it practically IMPOSSIBLE for someone to not to know that this type of treatment was abusive and beyond reproach...AHEAD OF TIME... Do you think that "I'll try it for a while and see how it goes and it isnt so I left on bad terms" is the cure all now? It is a start, and a very good one at that. I do believe that we were all victims, some moreso than others. Now that we have learned so much about what went on inside, behind the scenes, I surmise that former staff members who are still alive would have a truckload of extra baggage to carry around. That is unfortunate, for sure. I am not blaming them per se for the whole mess. This all started before they were involved. I am merely stating facts. I know many people who have rescinded their status as a 7th stepper. Cop outs are heroes, and suicide victims paid the ultimate price. I 7th stepped and get an empty kind of feeling because of it. STRAIGHT, INC. was an elaborate and illegitimate experiment done by Mel Sembler, his wife Betty, and Miller Newton, along with some others of course. Adolescent peer type staff members, while being victims on one hand, also victimized often. Maybe these staffers had the certificate for Drug Treatment Counselor, I dont know. From what I hear, that was voluntary and most staffers did not elect to get one. Joining the movement to stop this crap from continuing would be great. To downplay it and criticize it is counterproductive at the very least. Do you have a game plan for the movement? I doubt it. This situation reminds me of this simple FACT: Motivating was bogus, did you ever motivate?  :rofl:

 Harry.

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:eek: Look away! I have nothing to hide and will not be cowed with idle threats.

As far as "trepidation of repraisals"? Give me a break and fuck off.

I suppose I should have been referring to you as Mr. Dirty throughout.

CL

You sound like you are not happy with me. Unfortunately, shit happens. So what? You know, way back when you were there in STRAIGHT, INC. you know, when a 5th phase trainee was chosen? That person would take part in treating kids and young adults drug use, while also being in a highly illegal and morally defunct organization. Those lives were permanently altered.
The just say no thing didnt happen in your case Clay. You went onto a temporary career in drug treatment of kids and young adults. Not that you were SO bad, because maybe you weren't. You have the benefit of the doubt here, I second that motion. HOWEVER, There were a lot of "red flags" so to speak in Springfield that I saw in staff members, no matter how "nice" or cool they were. Perhaps this many years later, I still perceive staff members as the "they knew what the fuck they were doing when the Jr Staffer took them aside and asked them if they wanted to be a staff member and they said SURE!" crowd. I am willing to bet that you did not stand up back then, in front of your supervisor at STRAIGHT, INC., and say "These abuses must stop!" If you had done that, then you never would have made it to the next staff level and may have even been started over. Hmmm, do you think that happened? Lord knows, you never started any one over? Hmm, well, I'll leave you alone, from now on, here on out, until the very last human on the planet takes their final breath, I know. Congrats on the publishing accomplishment.   Harry

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:question:      Harry

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Man you got to read this
« on: December 24, 2002, 11:02:00 PM »
Just found this site and it is really weird, I thought I was weird, but this takes the cake! DH :eek:

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